Back in 2004 De Vito was still part of the Rizzuto organization. He was caught on tape visiting the cosenza club as late as 2005, perhaps even 2006.

He may be smart but the reason there has been more blood spilled in this so called second mafia war is the Rizzuto clans reluctance to let go.

In 78-82 after the last Violi got clipped, the Cotronis diplomatically stepped aside and the rest is history.

The only surviving members of the former Montreal Cupola are behind bars.( Arcadi and Del Balso)

In 2016 alone they lost heavy hitters, made men

And Ciment, I could be wrong, but isnt Anti from Canada as well, therefore what you said about people hearing things and researching the Canadian Mafia since the 60s, apply to him as well? Except aside from just word of mouth, he also uses actual RCMP documentation and other forms of documentation to make his posts. And I never doubted or disputed you "following Canadian OC dating back to the 60s", but you aren't the only one, and many of the discussion points, you, Sonny, myself, Cabrini, Euro, Dixie, etc, and theories and news we debate about has come from Anti and his posts, just throwing that out there. And yes, Eurodave, I understand that his post dealt with the past however its still within the discusssion as it goes to show despite what some here believe, Vito did still have allies in Toronto, Ontario which kept these groups from acting out directly against him and his leadership. And as already explained, The Rizzutos were a formidable force, thats undeniable, but as myself and others have said, his leadership skills were obviously one in a million. And his successors simply werent able to be diplomatic in the way he was and couldnt maintain those relationships and bonds, to keep their leadership position in tact and protected after he was extradited and convicted.

Sinatra.... If you read my statement I never said anything negative about anti mafia. So where do you come off saying such a thing. Why do you make such stupid comments ?

He may be smart but the reason there has been more blood spilled in this so called second mafia war is the Rizzuto clans reluctance to let go.

In 78-82 after the last Violi got clipped, the Cotronis diplomatically stepped aside and the rest is history.

The only surviving members of the former Montreal Cupola are behind bars.( Arcadi and Del Balso)

In 2016 alone they lost heavy hitters, made men

"Part" is a strong word...he paid his cut like any other Italian gangster had to, he brought his pizzo as Moreno Gallo did and many many others

So long as Arcadi/Del Baso group and Liborio C's group stay aligned with Rizzuto/Sollecito, I think they still have a chance. Again, they have to wait until Arcadi/Del Baso get out, which will be soon, and have to see what happens with the charges against Leonardo/Sollecito and separate charges with Liborio.

(And Ciment, I could be wrong, but isnt Anti from Canada as well, therefore what you said about people hearing things and researching the Canadian Mafia since the 60s, apply to him as well?)

If you look at my statement I used the word "also knowledgeable"...which Includes antimafia. Your words make it look that I singled out anti.Instead my words were complementary.

Uhm... I see that you revised your stand about knowledgeable to include others, I like that.

[quote=Ciment](And Ciment, I could be wrong, but isnt Anti from Canada as well, therefore what you said about people hearing things and researching the Canadian Mafia since the 60s, apply to him as well?)

If you look at my statement I used the word "also knowledgeable"...which Includes antimafia. Your words make it look that I singled out anti.Instead my words were complementary.

Uhm... I see that you revised your stand about knowledgeable to include others, I like that.

That was in my original post on the matter. I didnt edit that in, if thats what you're implying.

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FÉLIX SÉGUIN
Monday, 2 January 2017 16:00Update Monday, 2 January 2017 16:00

The year 2017 began as 2016 ended for the mafia Marco Pizzi. His vehicle was burned in the parking lot of his home in Rivières-des-Prairies, in the night from Sunday to Monday.
There were neighbors who called the police after hearing what appeared to be a blast, at 8625 Gouin Boulevard East.
Upon arrival, the firefighters noticed a strong odor of accelerating emanating from the BMW's 46-year-old man.
According to the SPVM, everything points to a fire arson.
No collaboration
It appears that the alleged trafficker offers very little cooperation to the police investigation.
"When we asked him to provide us with the camera recordings from his home surveillance cameras, he said it was not working," a police source said.
Marco Pizzi seems to be a key player in recent upheavals related to the Montreal mafia.
Often targeted
On August 1, he escaped a murder attempt that occurred in broad daylight in Montreal East.
During the last four months, businesses or buildings belonging to him have been targeted by incendiaries. The arson occurred last December 14 . The Automobile Trade Plus business, located on Notre-Dame Street, had been targeted overnight.

I believe This is all related to the Red street gangs. I believe this all revenge for the murders of chenier and Lamartine. The person that was arrested for the Pizzi missed attempt in August was from the reds. Once the three street bosses got arrested one them being Gregory wooley all hell broke loose. I am not convinced this is a Sicilian against calabrian thing. To many intertwined people from both parties.