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Re: Mississippi Gang Bill
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01/24/17 11:12 AM
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@AliceCooper Yes , there's heavy sentencing here especially in regards to Drug Trafficking, Robbery, & Child pornography. Gang affiliations are pointed or mentioned but they don't receive additional sentencing for any action/activity that supports the group.
@Gets It wouldn't make much sense to put it on the book if there's none at all. Mississippi case is the old fashioned Sov-Comm ( everybody should Wikipedia it) tactics that portray a state with little to no gangs but wannabes. We come across it many times and in which gangs grow in the low income section of the city and local government is either downplaying it or stating it doesn't exist ( just copycats/ misguided youth). Also from the law enforcement perspective too. The increase in violence changes their views afterwards and that's when they want to clamp down.
I always found it strange that Jackson HAD a gang unit around the 80s I think but was disbanded during the PEAK of Jackson's Crack era. Now certain other cities have gang units or similar units: Tupelo, Gulfport, Biloxi, Hattiesburg , Meridian ( literally just started a couple years ago), Greenville, & Clarksdale.
If you think you are too small to make a difference, you haven't spend the night with a mosquito. - African Proverb
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Re: Mississippi Gang Bill
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01/25/17 03:11 AM
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@AliceCooper Yes , there's heavy sentencing here especially in regards to Drug Trafficking, Robbery, & Child pornography. Gang affiliations are pointed or mentioned but they don't receive additional sentencing for any action/activity that supports the group.
@Gets It wouldn't make much sense to put it on the book if there's none at all. Mississippi case is the old fashioned Sov-Comm ( everybody should Wikipedia it) tactics that portray a state with little to no gangs but wannabes. We come across it many times and in which gangs grow in the low income section of the city and local government is either downplaying it or stating it doesn't exist ( just copycats/ misguided youth). Also from the law enforcement perspective too. The increase in violence changes their views afterwards and that's when they want to clamp down.
I always found it strange that Jackson HAD a gang unit around the 80s I think but was disbanded during the PEAK of Jackson's Crack era. Now certain other cities have gang units or similar units: Tupelo, Gulfport, Biloxi, Hattiesburg , Meridian ( literally just started a couple years ago), Greenville, & Clarksdale. I disagree. I don't think the bill is due to "homegrown" gangs, but there is a growing gang population that is due to gangs from the larger cities like Memphis spilling over into North Mississippi. Corinth (near where I live) for example has seen a rise in gang violence just in the past couple of years. Also a mostly white gang called Simon City is all over the place in MS. Mostly from incarcerated men who have been released back into society. People not in a gang shouldn't need to worry about this bill, people involved in a gang should be. That is the whole point of the bill. It's not backwoods racism. It's not the Mississippi Black Gang Bill, it is the Mississippi Gang Bill.
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Re: Mississippi Gang Bill
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01/25/17 03:14 AM
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The states without major gang activity should have put these laws on the books DECADES ago. What should States or Cities do? Wait until they're over run with gang violence like Chicago, IL before they try to deal with it?
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Re: Mississippi Gang Bill
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The states without major gang activity should have put these laws on the books DECADES ago. What should States or Cities do? Wait until they're over run with gang violence like Chicago, IL before they try to deal with it? Did you quote my comment by accident or arguing just for the sake of arguing? I've said that states should have been proactive about the rise of gangs since it was documented since the mid 1990s. Unless you disagree with that, why are you quoting me and then essentially agreeing? If it's not an error, I just cooked up a batch of L's that I want to hand out.
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Re: Mississippi Gang Bill
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01/28/17 12:03 AM
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The states without major gang activity should have put these laws on the books DECADES ago. What should States or Cities do? Wait until they're over run with gang violence like Chicago, IL before they try to deal with it? Did you quote my comment by accident or arguing just for the sake of arguing? I've said that states should have been proactive about the rise of gangs since it was documented since the mid 1990s. Unless you disagree with that, why are you quoting me and then essentially agreeing? If it's not an error, I just cooked up a batch of L's that I want to hand out. Unless you were being sarcastic, I was actually agreeing with you. Also, states WITH major gang activities should have put these laws in the books DECADES ago also.
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Re: Mississippi Gang Bill
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01/28/17 12:07 AM
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Yates,
If you remember a post I made last year that showed the history of our state gang growth. Chicago mobs been in Mississippi since the start of the 80s and spread statewide. Some homegrown cliques are just a mixture of affiliations while others are not. No doubt that members from large cities travel to and from the suburbs or nearby counties.
Overall it depends on your local area if it plays a larger role or not. I agree with your statement. Chicago and Memphis and Mississippi have been linked for a long time. And not just gangs either. Back in the day when work was scarce a lot of my family member moved to Chicago to find work. My grandfather and grandmother met in Chicago, my mother was born there in 59. Now it seems that a lot from Chicago are moving to Memphis and Mississippi to find work. A lot of people where I work are from Chicago and surrounding Illinois areas. I don't want to interject race in this conversation. When I say gangs I mean all gangs, including Simon City which is mostly a white gang and originated from Chicago. A lot of these dumb criminal junkie rednecks where I live are associated with the Simon City Royals. Bunch of weak idiots.
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Re: Mississippi Gang Bill
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I was curious on how many white Mississippians relocated to Chicago as well. I would imagine the C-Notes or another White mob under the 5 getting bigger here instead of the LKs for white inmates. Simon City Royals are just biggest group for whites right now and man are they here and there. Matter of fact, There's a Royal tag in the Movie theater in Columbus and another in the bathroom at a gas station off 45 n Wikin Wise road. A lot of white Mississippians relocated to Chicago back in the day. Enough that they called the neighborhood where my grandparents lived "Little Mississippi". My grandmother said she used to look out here window at night and see the mobsters socializing into the wee morning hours. She said they lived on Roosevelt Road in Cicero. They left Chicago in 1960, but many kept going to Chicago for work well into the mid to late 70s.
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Re: Mississippi Gang Bill
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02/03/17 12:58 PM
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I was curious on how many white Mississippians relocated to Chicago as well. I would imagine the C-Notes or another White mob under the 5 getting bigger here instead of the LKs for white inmates. Simon City Royals are just biggest group for whites right now and man are they here and there. Matter of fact, There's a Royal tag in the Movie theater in Columbus and another in the bathroom at a gas station off 45 n Wikin Wise road. The growth of traditionally white Chicago mobs in the south aren't from whites moving south in my opinion. It's 100% on the explosion of meth. Pre-meth, the predominate white groups in southeastern prisons where ABs and they never had great numbers. Meth did to rural whites what crack did to urban blacks. As the white prison population exploded, these guys had 2 options: be in a hate group or option b. Easy to see what happened. The LK thing is a response to the growth of royals. They have very little presense and can't operate freely. They are subservant to VLs, 4CHs, stones, etc... Further, I cannot imagine a white LK from the southeast being accepted in Chi, NY, etc... I could be wrong on that though.
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Re: Mississippi Gang Bill
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03/07/18 03:49 PM
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That article has a couple ridiculous claims. One, the scr’s aren’t a white supremacy group. That’s laughably bullshit. Second, it claims GDs and BGDs are 2 separate groups when essentially they are the same organization. I’ll put it this way, if any young guys go into the prison system claiming the duece, they’ll be told to drop it unless they are an OG grandfathered in. And they’ll still be under the GD flag. They won’t be a separate group. One thing that I take from that article to be accurate is that area must be pretty wild. @ Kash Precisely, I don't understand why the LE in my state continue do that with the GDs. Not the SCRs but that brotherhood group. If a Insane Duece gets locked up here then they are going be a Duece or if they dropped then it's Royal they be. Gulf Coast seems to be the SCR hotbed.
If you think you are too small to make a difference, you haven't spend the night with a mosquito. - African Proverb
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Re: Mississippi Gang Bill
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03/07/18 04:03 PM
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What type of vice lords do they have in mississippi?
Does anybody realize GD stands for "growth and development" anymore
Hell most gd's in chicago dont know that @Cookcounty VLN: IVL, IIVL, MIVL, CVL, UVL, TVL, & 4CH. The largest branches is the 9s, 64s, Fluids, & 4s. Yes. Check out Hattiesburg BOS.
If you think you are too small to make a difference, you haven't spend the night with a mosquito. - African Proverb
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