So far what's the body count for this fued on all sides?

Depends on the source. Some consider certain murders unrelated and opinions differ on when the war started. There have been dozens of people killed since 2004. The Montreal underworld became unstable after Vito's arrest, but the actual war started in my opinion with the murder of Domenico Macri in 2006. Around 30 directly related killings would probably be a good estimate, but total murders since Vito's arrest is probably 50+ by now.

There have been several phases. I'd say 2006-2009 was the prelude. Then the actual take-over attempt in 2009-2010 followed by a civil war within the anti-Rizzuto coalition in 2011-2012. Then the counter offensive by the Rizzuto group in 2012-2013 followed by relative peace until last year. You could make a case that these were several conflicts but all in all there has been turmoil and instability for over a decade.

The following are the records that I kept to the best of my knowledge. The fire bombings are not always reported by the press so they may vary. These stats are only mafia related & may vary a little but it gives you an idea.

2009 killed 3 shootings 1 Fire bombings 4
2010 killed 8 shootings 1 Fire bombings 17
2011 killed 3 shootings 6 Fire bombings 9
2012 killed 12 shootings 2 Fire bombings 8
2013 killed 14 shootings 1 Fire bombings 5
2014 killed 4 shootings 0 Fire bombings 5
2015 killed 2 shootings 1 Fire bombings 5
2016 killed 9 shootings 2 Fire bombings 20
2017 killed 2 shootings 0 Fire bombings 7

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/18/20-annees-dans-les-ligues-majeures-du-monde-interlope

New book on Montreal organized crime.

Attempted murder on Salvatore Scoppa.......things are heating up again.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/22/tentative-de-meurtre-a-terrebonne

Here's the link to Daniel Renaud's article about it:

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...de-la-mafia.php

Amazing, the minute one side gets weakened for whatever circumstances the other side strikes back. I have my doubts this feud will ever end.

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...t-in-terrebonne

Montreal Gazette link

Wow. Earlier I said I wouldn't write off the "old guard", just yet, especially with Stefano Sollecito supposedly refusing kicking up to the supposed "new leadership", but I wasn't expecting this.

Possible fued between Sollecito and Scoppa? Always intriguing to speculate, but perhaps it's much less interesting and it's all about an unpaid debt. I may misremember, but I thought Salvatore was in trouble with street gangs. There was a price on his head before this war started.

Anyway, with Andrew incarcerated his brother probably has to step up, if he hadn't already.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02...t-fixes-en-juin

The six accomplices in the murder of the aspiring godfather Salvatore Montagna, killed on November 24, 2011, should finally know their sentence in June, five and a half years after their arrest.

His last known conflict was with the Arcadi crew.

Still unclear where he stands, seems like with Sollecito. Even more unclear, who stands with Arcadi?

I've been saying in all of my posts that it wasn't over. And even though as Sonny pointed out, we don't know for sure that it was finally some retaliation from Rizzuto/Sollecito group, I have a feeling it is. I still think that much like when things first started when Vito went away, there was no retaliation, but that didn't mean that it was over as most news outlets reported. So many at that time said it was over for the Rizzuto group. But the group didn't hand over any of there rackets, they just went to ground and calculated for the opportune time to strike back. Today, there are too many from the inner circle of the Rizzuto's left to have said they were done this time around as well.

As many of us said, if Arcadi and Del Baso stick with the Rizzuto/Sollecito's, this thing is far from over... Didn't Del Baso just get out of prison last week?

Didn't Del Baso just get out 1 week ago?

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Well, there was platinum Sports betting. Which reportedly changed hands and reportedly it was one of the issues between Montagna & Desjardins. Moreno Gallo was said to oversee it until Vito came home and reportedly the Rizzutos had controlled it before Vito unexpectedly died.

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...m-whistleblower

Corruption among the police force.

"Six Montreal area men face extradition to U.S. in telemarketing case"

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-ne...marketing-case/

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02/23/maxim-roy-dans-une--serie-sur-vito-rizzuto

Vito Rizzuto mistress on TV series.

http://www.journaldemontreal.com/2017/02...-de-pots-de-vin

Allegations of bribes scrutinized by SQ police

Some good insights about the reopening of the Quebec City Hells Angels chapter are contained in the article to which I've linked below. No bunker has been opened yet. There are some good photos that accompany the article.

http://www.journaldequebec.com/2017/02/24/les-hells-sactivent-a-quebec

According to the article, the Hells in the province have exclusive control of the drug trade in the eastern part of Quebec. As well, they are said to control 90% of the flow of drugs in Quebec City, principally cocaine.

One piece of information in the article that stuck out for me is the establishment of an HA chapter in the province of New Brunswick by a former Quebec City HA. The Hells may be furthering their trafficking activity; they seem to be not only importing drugs in eastern Canada's maritime ports but also exporting drugs--for now this is true of the Port of Halifax.

I agree it is a very insightful article. It seems that they have cornered all three ports in eastern Canada; Halifax, Montreal and Quebec. The efforts of years past by Mom Boucher and Walter Stadnick in expanding the HA throughout Canada have come to fruition. While the Italian OC's are killing themselves in Montreal HA are planting new flags in other regions of Canada.

If Rino Magi ends up doing time in the US. Will he be protected in jail or pay for his brother involvement of Nick Rizzuto jr. death.
The Rizzuto's may have to hire a "sicario" to do the job.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/f...vigne-1.3997042

Gang expert urges Fort McMurray to crack down on drugs.

http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...nt-rouverte.php

More on HA.

True they also infiltrated Vancouver's port a long time ago.

Don't rule out the HA's

Let's keep an eye out for more news stories about the recently concluded Operation Halfpenny--see link to article below.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scoti...caine-1.3998230

I'm curious as to who the two accused men in Ontario are and what their affiliation is to any large crime groups. I'd also like to know whether the Port of Saint John in New Brunswick was going to be used to import the cocaine.

Very interesting stuff gentlemen....




I've been saying that you should pay attention to who is in control of the narcotics. That's what will tell you who is in power, much more than the murders.

I've suspected that the HA are maybe the sleeping giant in Canada. What happens when they forge their own connect to Colombia? Which I think, they already have. Mom Boucher put down the " Marlo," method a long time ago, where you position yourself so that no narcotics can be moved on the street without it going through you. Plus, they have patched members, who lead street gangs themselves like Wooley, so they have influence with the gangs as well. You guys tell me, but that looks like a near monopoly on distribution, or at least, the HA control a great deal of it.

That's what gave em leverage to sit down with Vito in the first place, they controlled distribution. Now add in that they control PORTS, so now they call their own shot on IMPORTATION, AND EXPORT. See, look at this, WHY WOULD THEY STILL NEED ITALIANS?

This is the same dynamic that occurred with the Calabrians and Sicilians. People were like, where are the made guys? I'm like, it's all about the dope and coke. Is it, like, there are 150 PATCHED MEMBERS of the HA in Quebec, and this is why they are so strong? Fuck no, it's all about their relationship to the coke.
Until they became organized and marshaled their strength, they would have always been dependent on the Italians ability to provide narcotics, as the Italians depended on them to move said narcotics.
The same dynamics. If you control all the street level sales, have your own relationship to the suppliers in Colombia, ( or Mexico), you call your own shot. If the port of Vancouver is available, it sort of undermines the importance of controlling the Montreal port, UNLESS you are trying to get stuff into NY.

It's like narcotics has its own rules, that don't respect the rules of a criminal organization. You could be a Boss, but if I have a solid connection to dope or coke, I could probably make a business deal with an underling or one of your allies to betray you for money.


Seriously, this whole thing reminds me of the whole second season of Gommorah, lol with the factions, alliances made and broken, retaliations, peace offerings made and broken. Long time leaders gone to ground, waiting to strike...