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Re: Dutch gangs
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Have the Kamper groups declined in importance ? Or were they never that important to begin with ?
They have often joined the big motorclubs in recent years. Founder Klaas Otto and current Captain World Henk Kuipers of No Surrender are both kampers. Ciganos MC and Trailer Trash Travellers MC are made up of Kampers, practically exclusively.
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Re: Dutch gangs
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Dino Soerel sentenced to life in prison! Dino Soerel: Life for the murders of Kees Houtman + Thomas van der Bijl Jesse Remmers: Life for the murders of Thomas van der Bijl (2006) en Kees Houtman (2005), Henie Shamel en Anne de Witte (1993), Djordje Ilic en Samir Hadziselimovic (1993), the murder attempt on Tony Vaz (2000). Mohamed “Moppie” R.: Life. Accessary for the murder of Henie Shamel (1993), Tonnie van Mourik (1993), Djordje Ilic en Samir Hadziselimovic (1993), murder attempt on Tony Vaz (2000). Siegfried S.: Life. Murder of Henie Shamel and murder in the second degree of Anne de Witte. Sjaak B.: 6 years for possession of firearms. Fred Ros: 14 years (Deal with government). Murder of Thomas van der Bijl + other charges. Peter la Serpe: 8 years (Deal with the government). Murder of Kees Houtman + other charges. Remains free. Freek S.: Acquittal. Nan Paul de B.: 13,5 years. Murder of Tonnie van Mourik.
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Re: Dutch gangs
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Dino Soerel sentenced to life in prison! Dino Soerel: Life for the murders of Kees Houtman + Thomas van der Bijl Jesse Remmers: Life for the murders of Thomas van der Bijl (2006) en Kees Houtman (2005), Henie Shamel en Anne de Witte (1993), Djordje Ilic en Samir Hadziselimovic (1993), the murder attempt on Tony Vaz (2000). Mohamed “Moppie” R.: Life. Accessary for the murder of Henie Shamel (1993), Tonnie van Mourik (1993), Djordje Ilic en Samir Hadziselimovic (1993), murder attempt on Tony Vaz (2000). Siegfried S.: Life. Murder of Henie Shamel and murder in the second degree of Anne de Witte. Sjaak B.: 6 years for possession of firearms. Fred Ros: 14 years (Deal with government). Murder of Thomas van der Bijl + other charges. Peter la Serpe: 8 years (Deal with the government). Murder of Kees Houtman + other charges. Remains free. Freek S.: Acquittal. Nan Paul de B.: 13,5 years. Murder of Tonnie van Mourik. Maybe "the commissaris" will now give up "the nose".
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Re: Dutch gangs
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Dino Soerel sentenced to life in prison! Dino Soerel: Life for the murders of Kees Houtman + Thomas van der Bijl Jesse Remmers: Life for the murders of Thomas van der Bijl (2006) en Kees Houtman (2005), Henie Shamel en Anne de Witte (1993), Djordje Ilic en Samir Hadziselimovic (1993), the murder attempt on Tony Vaz (2000). Mohamed “Moppie” R.: Life. Accessary for the murder of Henie Shamel (1993), Tonnie van Mourik (1993), Djordje Ilic en Samir Hadziselimovic (1993), murder attempt on Tony Vaz (2000). Siegfried S.: Life. Murder of Henie Shamel and murder in the second degree of Anne de Witte. Sjaak B.: 6 years for possession of firearms. Fred Ros: 14 years (Deal with government). Murder of Thomas van der Bijl + other charges. Peter la Serpe: 8 years (Deal with the government). Murder of Kees Houtman + other charges. Remains free. Freek S.: Acquittal. Nan Paul de B.: 13,5 years. Murder of Tonnie van Mourik. Maybe "the commissaris" will now give up "the nose". Do you think the government would be willing to make a deal with him to get Holleeder? Isn't the case they have now strong enough on its own?
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Re: Dutch gangs
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Do you think the government would be willing to make a deal with him to get Holleeder? Isn't the case they have now strong enough on its own?
With this conviction of Dino and the Holleeder sisters it looks like a strong case at least for the murders of Thomas and Kees. But probably they also want to proof Endstra and the others than maybe Dino could be helpful. Kinda reminds me of last Gotti case. That case was also very strong as it was but the government still wanted Gravano to really make it a Slam-Dunk case.
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Re: Dutch gangs
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BTW Billy, Fred Ros was released the same day he's now probably heading to a sunny beach. Yeah, I heard that today. Apparently he already served 2/3 of his sentence. Those verdicts yesterday are a definite game changer in the government's fight against organized crime.
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Re: Dutch gangs
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BTW Billy, Fred Ros was released the same day he's now probably heading to a sunny beach. Yeah, I heard that today. Apparently he already served 2/3 of his sentence. Those verdicts yesterday are a definite game changer in the government's fight against organized crime. That's right we will see more and more people go into the WPP now. http://panorama.nl/blog/misdaad-blog/onderwereld-met-stomheid-geslagen-na-uitspraken-passage
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Re: Dutch gangs
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SUSPECTS GET UP TO 20 YEARS IN PRISON FOR ATTEMPTED ASSASSINATION IN DIEMENBy Janene Pieters on July 20, 2017 - 13:30 On Thursday the court in Amsterdam sentenced five men to up to 20 years in prison for attempting to assassinate Peter R. in Diemen in November 2015. Despite 34 shots being fired, R. managed to escape with his life, NU.nl reports. Gunmen Qoi C. and Atif M. were both sentenced to 20 years in prison. Getaway driver Karim S. got 16 years. Genaro L. was sentenced to 12.5 years and Alejandro P. to 14 years in prison for following the victim and preparing the assassination. P. is still at large. The suspects also have to pay their victim almost 43 thousand euros in compensation. The assassination attempt happen on November 5th, 2015 while R. was sitting in his car in a parking lot on Fregat in Diemen. The two gunmen opened fire on him with semi-automatic weapons. A total of 34 shots were fired. The court considered it a "miracle" that R. survived. The police managed to track down the perpetrators quickly, because the getaway car they used was already being watched as part of another investigation. Four suspects were arrested on the same evening as the shooting. A fifth suspect was arrested in January 2016. Investigators managed to break into phones found on the suspects. Based on messages, emailed and tapped conversations, a clear picture of how the assassination attempt was planned and executed was formed. The Public Prosecutor believes that Naoufal F. is the one who ordered this assassination. He is being tried separately. The 35-year-old man was extradited to the Netherlands from Ireland in February. http://nltimes.nl/2017/07/20/suspects-get-20-years-prison-attempted-assassination-diemen
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Re: Dutch gangs
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NO SURRENDER FOUNDER SUSPECTED OF ORDERING ATTACK ON PUBLIC PROSECUTOR
By Janene Pieters on August 29, 2017 - 12:10 No Surrender founder Klaas Otto is suspected of ordering an attack on the Public Prosecutor working on his case from his cell in the Middelburg prison, Otto's lawyer Louis de Leon confirmed to NU.nl. According to the lawyer, his client finds these accusations completely ridiculous. On Monday the police arrested a 44-year-old man in Sliedrecht. He is believed to be the one Otto ordered to commit the attack. The attack was directed at Greetje Bos, prosecutor at the Public Prosecutor's Office Zeeland-West-Brabant and the prosecutor on the case against Otto. The police searched Otto's cell as well as two houses in Sliedrecht and Rotterdam. Computers, mobile phones and digital data carriers were seized. The investigation into the possible attack has been in progress for several weeks, according to the newspaper. Otto is currently in custody awaiting his trial. He is accused of extortion, assault and arson, amongst other things. The former No Surrender boss also made the news last week, when it was revealed that he was in the possession of tapped conversations of other inmates. He requested the recordings of calls he made from prison to prepare for his trial. By mistake, the police also gave him the recordings of phone calls other prisoners made. http://nltimes.nl/2017/08/29/surrender-founder-suspected-ordering-attack-public-prosecutor
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Re: Dutch gangs
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The biggest money maker for the dutch groups is still ecstasy.
Based on numbers from an exhaustive 10 year, 27,000 subject study between 2006-2014, it seems that The Netherlands holds rank as possessing the highest rates of MDMA found in its ecstasy pills, coming in at some 70.5%, topping the United States, Canada, Australia, and Great Britain.
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