Not sure what to make of this supposedly ex CO

In his other vid where he talks about the Gotti beating by Johnson he pretty much recants everything u have read online and offers absolutely NOTHING new despite the fact he claims to have worked there during that episode

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Sorry he above is in reference to one of the videos he done about the beating. I've just realised he did another one and in that one, he offers a lot more information such as Gotti being cuffed/ Johnson saying "we're gonna have a good game/ how they couldn't help Gotti due to not having a supervisor present etc

Yeah the two clips don't really jibe with each other. Interesting to hear his perspective though.

I guess a c.o. Knowing what's truly going on is kind of like expecting the cashier at wal mart to know how the stock is performing. Kinda.

he says gotti was in P.C. at the time of the attack. does anyone know why he would need to go to P.C.? also,gotti was in cuffs so he couldn't fight back. i had never heard that,it's new to me.

Plus I can't imagine Bingham and those guys being as far along in the game as they were and needing to be mentored by gotti. They were probably smarter than him.

I've never read a single sentence anywhere that indicated gotti was intelligent. Just that he was a total retard degenerate gambling junkie with little to no actual business experience.

Their (A/B) whole ethos of building members up with knowledge, classic literature etc goes back to the beginning. From the few audio clips I've heard of gotti---I don't think that fuckin retard could spell his own name even if we spotted him all the vowels. And saying A/B didn't have people on the outside at that time period?

He could be right who knows....

Gotti had an IQ of 110 which would put him about 15-20 points above the average criminal. Hell pre crazy act Chin clocked in at 102 and he's supposed to be the smartest, craftiest mob boss ever.

I am just trying to get everyone to realize how low the standards are here...

Gotti at 110 !??

Is that published from prison records? They make them take an iq test?

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1994...-and-herrnstein

Not sure where the test was done but it was in some book years ago. I seem to remember his family or lawyers trying to sell some kayfabed number that was much higher years ago. Pretty sure Chin's 102 score was gotten during his first federal prison sentence.

People like to slate Gotti a lot and I can see why BUT according to his nemesis Sammy the bull, he said Gotti was very smart. So I'll take his word for
It

When Diane Sawyer asked if Gotti had the brains to run a criminal empire, Sammys response as," oh, John was smart. No question about it, he was smart".

And that came from a guy who ran multiple businesses so if he's saying your smart, forget about it

Fake news. The ab were a huge force way before gotti got life. Great book the hot house about leavenworth is crazy.

Surposly when gravanos book came out and sammy said he had a convo with frank locascio about if they win trial frankie gets to shoot john in the head at the victory party. Gotti put out a hit threw the ab on frank. Guess it was bullshit because franks son tory was a high ranking capo till 99. Gotti would have had the son hit.

lol no offense,but the AB are not a "huge force." a bunch of like sweaty old guys walking around in their boxers who liev in a cage 23 hours a day is not my definition of a force.they are powerless,just like all other prisoners.dont believe ADL or SPLC propaganda. AB has done nothing significant since like 1983

So like...every bad prison likely has a group of white power guys right?

Hasn't it been a trend for 20 years or so that the white power element becomes more and more fragmented as time goes on? I don't follow the current stuff much.

Amf, the splc...in my optinion the most powerful hate group in the country.

Since I'm slamming gotti I should clarify I have no doubt he was very street smart.

notice when you type in the search engine the name of the socalled wp groups,the SPLC is always the first one to come up. wp groups are highly infiltrated at this point,moastly by the feds,and some groups i suspect are entirely fed-run like the NSM. but it's knot like it was in the old days,you hardly see them at Metal shows they used to like cause riots and mayhem everytime they showed up.there's onlya few in my estimatnion

The SPLC is nothing more than à propaganda outlet, a very rich and influential one at that. The existence of an all powerful white racist organization fits their warped perception of reality. They are silent when it comes to groups like Blm and similar groups, who've killed more people in last couple of years than the much talked about KKK and similar type groups. One of the last killings done by the AB was the murder of Billy Bright a hitter who was part of Tommy Pitera's crew, ànd they did for Mark Reiter,a Jewish guy convicted of dealing junk.

I would say Gotti was street smart...but far from intelligent..He was a strong arm guy..He never committed any sophisticated crimes..His crew dealt drugs, hijacked and was most known for their violence..He never pulled off sophisticated crimes...

Btw, intelligent guy's don't get caught on bugs talking about murders...

agreed. BLM are also feds.but much moar violent than any supposed wp group. BLM haeve been behind numerous instances of rioting,police shootings,etc. but not a word of condemnation from Mark Potok and his ilk.SPLC have connections,they convinced the FBI to pubish that toataly fictitious report that "white supremacists" constitute a bigger threat to natl security than muslim fundamentalists. remember the SPLC tried to blame AB for the murder of the tx DA?and when it turned out someone else was responsible,and it was completely unrelated to the AB they swept that under the rug.dylann roof was like a godsend for them,sad as that sounds. one tragic, isolated incident can like be used as propaganda for the next 1,000 years

Your rite about a huge force. John gotti in 1989 was probaly more powerfull then the mayor of nyc in certain shit like control of the gargabe in nyc or concrete. But the ab guys in prison could get messages around the prisons and have you stabbed or killed like gotti could bark a order when he was at tue ravenite.

'they are silent when it comes to groups like Blm'

BS BLM is mostly driven by women and gays. it is basically a slogan really stop writing crazy stuff about a freaking hashtag on twitter

"BLM are also feds.but much moar violent than any supposed wp group. BLM haeve been behind numerous instances of rioting,police shootings,etc"

bs again police bs has been the reason for every major riot in urban america except the MLK jr .you name it watts,baltimore miami detriot Rodney king

McDuffy riots in Miami.....

Boy I remember those like it was yesterday.

That was some bad shit, the whole city was burning.

People looting stores....

Rodney king was a conspiracy.i've seen video interviews of ex-LAPD that were involved in the planning of the riots.they handed out weapons to the samoan,and east coast crips prior to the riots.that's on record.the feds fricking purposely derailed a train in South Central, that like was carrying tons of guns and ammunitions,and they tipped off the local gangs,and like made sure they were armed and would kill each other,and burn their own communities down.

typical BLM rhetoric

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N9Qmoiugz7Q&bpctr=1492933558

@ americafyeah


What exactly are you saying?

good point,this thred is about john gotti and the AB. didn't mean to get off topic