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Re: Why didn't castellano want Roy Demeo to be made?
[Re: Kash]
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Re: Why didn't castellano want Roy Demeo to be made?
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Re: Why didn't castellano want Roy Demeo to be made?
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05/01/17 06:31 AM
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@ Pmac
I think you are spot on here.......
I remember reading that book, the parts where Montiglio is whining about Nino not letting him make any money. Nines response always had me dying laughing, mostly cause coming from a poor background, I agreed with him.
Nino was like, " I charge you 150 ( or whatever) for rent, you get paid every week, I buy all the food. HOW ARE YOU BROKE?!!", lol.. The guy had like NO hustle....
Plus like Pmac pointed out, he's the nephew of the capo closest to the boss. What type of opportunities would a mobster of ANY WORTH be able to get into with that level of a connection to the top? He seemed to dumb to even run a package or a book, or really, he even seemed kinda bad at drug trafficking...
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Re: Why didn't castellano want Roy Demeo to be made?
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05/01/17 09:36 AM
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Also, like was said in that Boss of Bosses book, that Criminal/Corporate CEO image Paul was so fond of, was kinda blown by the fact he had Billotti as his chief confidant.... That whole thing was propagated in order to sway people against Castellano in the first place. I'm not saying it's untrue but it's probably grossly exaggerated. If you asked the older guys like Marino, Gallo or Failla if Castellano was a gangster they would probably say yes, and if they were asked about Gotti and Ruggiero they would probably say they didn't have the mentality to rise above associate. I mean look at the Diane Sawyer interview Billy posted. Gravano didn't implicate ANYBODY on the tapes the Feds got him on. Gotti was implicating people left, right and center. Yet Gravano is the bad guy? Poor Frankie Loc deliberately staying monosyllabic in the tapes in order not to implicate himself in anything - and he's still in prison to this day because of this Gotti retard! You telling me he doesn't wish now in hindsight that Castellano was boss in 1990??
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: Why didn't castellano want Roy Demeo to be made?
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@ Pmac
I think you are spot on here.......
I remember reading that book, the parts where Montiglio is whining about Nino not letting him make any money. Nines response always had me dying laughing, mostly cause coming from a poor background, I agreed with him.
Nino was like, " I charge you 150 ( or whatever) for rent, you get paid every week, I buy all the food. HOW ARE YOU BROKE?!!", lol.. The guy had like NO hustle....
Plus like Pmac pointed out, he's the nephew of the capo closest to the boss. What type of opportunities would a mobster of ANY WORTH be able to get into with that level of a connection to the top? He seemed to dumb to even run a package or a book, or really, he even seemed kinda bad at drug trafficking... That's what blew me away about Murder Machine. If Dominick was really meeting directly with Castellano on behalf of his uncle, then he really was a total fuckup. I mean if Dom wasnt a halfwit and a junkie he could've had a lot of power and could've been an extremely powerful capo, let alone in a position to be the boss eventually. He said Nino spent most of his time down in Florida so Dom should've been right there to take over for Nino's rackets when he retired.
"It wasn't very good parsley to begin with, and then the cat went and peed on it." -Sicilian proverb
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Re: Why didn't castellano want Roy Demeo to be made?
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
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05/01/17 11:17 AM
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Also, like was said in that Boss of Bosses book, that Criminal/Corporate CEO image Paul was so fond of, was kinda blown by the fact he had Billotti as his chief confidant.... That whole thing was propagated in order to sway people against Castellano in the first place. I'm not saying it's untrue but it's probably grossly exaggerated. If you asked the older guys like Marino, Gallo or Failla if Castellano was a gangster they would probably say yes, and if they were asked about Gotti and Ruggiero they would probably say they didn't have the mentality to rise above associate. I mean look at the Diane Sawyer interview Billy posted. Gravano didn't implicate ANYBODY on the tapes the Feds got him on. Gotti was implicating people left, right and center. Yet Gravano is the bad guy? Poor Frankie Loc deliberately staying monosyllabic in the tapes in order not to implicate himself in anything - and he's still in prison to this day because of this Gotti retard! You telling me he doesn't wish now in hindsight that Castellano was boss in 1990?? Agreed 100%. Gotti didn't have the pedigree and wasn't groomed to be a boss from day 1 like Gambino or Castellano and it showed. Both of them were mafia royalty from Palermo. They were probably born rich from having their family in Cosa Nostra for decades, so it was more about loyalty, respect, and bloodlines for them than money. Reminds me of that George Anastasia quote about never make a poor man the boss. Makes you wonder if Castellano had named Marino or Failla as underboss instead of Belloti if the Gotti takeover group wouldve respected and/or feared them enough as UB to not make a move on Big Paul.
"It wasn't very good parsley to begin with, and then the cat went and peed on it." -Sicilian proverb
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Re: Why didn't castellano want Roy Demeo to be made?
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
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Also, like was said in that Boss of Bosses book, that Criminal/Corporate CEO image Paul was so fond of, was kinda blown by the fact he had Billotti as his chief confidant.... That whole thing was propagated in order to sway people against Castellano in the first place. I'm not saying it's untrue but it's probably grossly exaggerated. If you asked the older guys like Marino, Gallo or Failla if Castellano was a gangster they would probably say yes, and if they were asked about Gotti and Ruggiero they would probably say they didn't have the mentality to rise above associate. I mean look at the Diane Sawyer interview Billy posted. Gravano didn't implicate ANYBODY on the tapes the Feds got him on. Gotti was implicating people left, right and center. Yet Gravano is the bad guy? Poor Frankie Loc deliberately staying monosyllabic in the tapes in order not to implicate himself in anything - and he's still in prison to this day because of this Gotti retard! You telling me he doesn't wish now in hindsight that Castellano was boss in 1990?? Orrrr,Poor Frankie Loc was ignorant 2 b so loyal 2 the asshole in the Brioni Suit..
I didn't want to leave blood on your carpet...
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