The Guzzo's were major and had the backing of of many families.Anthony is backed by the Gambinos and is on record with them at the moment .Paul Ragusa, I know for a fact is scheming his ass off in the joint just biding his day to be released, His whole family are mobbed up on both sides of the ocean and there's no way he'll relinquish that lifestyle to become a normal citizen ! He's wearing this sentence like a badge of honor and will definitely be seeking his button as soon as he steps foot outside those walls !Ridgewood is jam packed with OC from many European ethnicities, There's Serbians,Albanians are huge there, You have Italian, Traditional and Sicilian, There's some Irish OC , IRA backed crime crews over there and in maspeth etc..

Say no i read capecis column today you were on to sometging with that young hood who was killed in the queens highrise in some drug beef. He was a victim in the boananos murder plot. Doesnt say if he was co operating but listed as a victim hes dead thou. But look at sonny fran. 100 thats crazy. Doesnt every person in america get a card from the president or something like that. Hah.

What's good Pmac, When Chris Cognata was shot and killed he wasn't kicking up to anyone and the reason him and those bonanno's were banging back n forth was due to the fact that he knocked out Vinny Asaro after they tried to extort him .Word was that they tried to exact revenge and he went on the offensive by robbing and beating a few of they're crew and not backing down.I guess you can say he won that war !! Lol..like I said, I am so far removed from the neighborhood and all those people but this is old news, I heard this years and years ago I think when I was at a function at Russo's on the bay in HB in 08 !which is like being on an episode of Mob wives, the rumor mill,everyone runs they're mouths

It wasn't surprising when I read the paper and saw it all over the news that he was shot and killed, He had a list of enemies literally from NY to Florida !!! That should tell you where the Mob is at these days, A guy lives amongst them all and basically tells em all to go fuck themselves in a million ways and does whatever he wants !! Lmfaooo, if that was the Mob of the 70s forget it !! What a joke the mob is !! Like I said, who in the world would want to be a part of or join that bunch of Miscreant clown low lives ??

Mrs.JustsayNo back for more drama. You are a Drama Queen. Family within a family??? Never heard that one. Put that one back in your ass.

She is a drama queen. Don't listen to her everyone. She gets bitchy around this time of the month....

Justsayno always talks about OC.....And, despite a period where he made a lot of threads at once..( I think he was trying to be noticed) he really doesn't troll anyone.

Contrast this with the neverending race-whining and bullshit, I'll take him over a LOT of these posters....

And also, like pmac pointed out, if we stop beating the guy up long enough to listen to him, he was kinda onto something with all this it appears....

The whole " Family in a family" thing? That just describes the situation that occurs when a mobster inspires more loyalty from his crew, than the actual family.
Think of the Gotti tapes, that's what he said Sammy was doing. He didn't like the way Sammy treated his crew, cutting up scores with em, because he let them eat off his plate, that always inspires loyalty.


One of the best examples of this ( I brought this up in a previous thread) is Scarfo and Bruno. Because Scarfos crew was totally loyal to HIM, even though he wasnt rich, to me, he was more powerful than Bruno, who was rich but inspired NO loyalty, because he valued his money too much, didn't let anyone eat with him.
I explained this using chapters from Machiavelli, like the STRUCTURE of power.....


Luchesse, Genovese, Chin, these guys let their soldiers eat, and enjoyed tremdous loyalty from their crews-families for pretty much all their careers.

Contrast this with your Profacis, and Castellano and Brunos, greedy guys killed by ambition underlings.

I think that's all he meant there, Ronnie had a strong crew, that was more loyal to HIM. Think Merlinos people how they really are loyal to him, more so than the " Bruno Family" ....

Just tryna diffuse a silly argument before it happens, carry on people...

He mention that thing about the guy chris being killed in a highrise in quenns rite around the guys were rounded up if not before. Hes just saying the guy ronnie had a huge crew of young guys dreaming of getting a button some day. Read john gotti recruited ronnie t at a younge age. Gotti had a huge crew of wannabes before he became a capo.

True about Bruno being greedy ,BUT,on the same token,he also let a lot of his old school guys do their own thing without wanting continuous tribute..Riccobene,Frankie flowers,sindone,johnny keys etc..w/ the possible exception of Sindone,these guys were cordial & loyal to Mr. Bruno.

I'm not into the gay shit !! Ronnie had one of the largest crews in the Gambino family, Between inducted members and associates, There were hundreds ! Alot of guys who ran under Ronnie in the 80's and 90's are inducted today.When Ronnie went off to Prison for life he handed his son a virtual empire.Not only were a lot of those guys fighters,killers, But they were also Major earners ! Thanks pmac,Cabrini ! Good looking out

Bruno was considered generous by some and very tight by others . It was just who you were and how valuable you were to the family is how it was explained to me .

Bruno had interests with some big names back in the day in other countries and he was very generous with his blood family in those endeavors .

Have to remember he was sought out by NY to be boss and not just by Gambino because he had stuff in Florida and south America and Cuba possibly partnered with NY in these.

My grandfather always said Bruno was pushed in Philly to the point of force . I have asked for years the real reason and the guys that knew some of it confirmed that he was right that he was pushed in and old boss pushed out.

Being from that area , You are right about Ronnie..But They may have shelved his Son, Who's doing time himself..Just a rumor.

Because of that beef with the Corozzo lawyer?
One would think that this will sort itself out once he's back on the streets.

-Joseph DiNapoli was released on January 17, 2017.
-Matthew Madonna will be released between June 29, 2018 and February 25, 2019.

...I don't really know but not shocked ! If this is true ,That's why so many turn..They build a fortune on the Streets and the minute they're off the streets, So is their earnings.Where's the Loyalty..? A real mess.