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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Acting Gambino Boss**
[Re: MrJustsayNo]
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05/14/17 03:31 AM
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Interesting... We'll have to let some time go by and see how all this shakes out.
From what you are saying, this sounds like it came from the Gambino CLAN, not so much the Gambino FAMILY, cause Castellano did the same, but the Americanized mobsters coulda gave a fuck really. This sounds like something the SICILIANS, specifically woulda had a problem with, not so much the AMERICAN mob.
The fact that supposedly relatives of the Inzerillos and Gambinos were behind the alleged demotion, speaks to this.
Couple questions, 1. Who are the feuding admin members? 2. What is the genesis of said dispute? Is it a specific racket? I can't actually see them demoting someone that capable over some domestic shit, no matter who she's related to.
3. How interconnected are the American and Italian Gambino clans, if the relatives from over there can affect the hierarchy over here? ( No American mobster is going to influence who is a boss in Sicily...)This speaks to an idea I've had for a LONGTIME, that they are trying to reactivate the structural ties between the mafia of Palermo, and the mafia of NYC. Lot of guys say no, I see it otherwise... I really think the Gambinos of Palermo and the Gambinos of New York are the SAME FAMILY, I'm talking the blood relatives here, not the AMERICAN guys.. ( I know Cali is American, but I think y'all know what I mean..)
Again, time will tell here.....
But for real, what was the dispute supposedly?
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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Acting Gambino Boss**
[Re: CabriniGreen]
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05/14/17 04:12 AM
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Interesting... We'll have to let some time go by and see how all this shakes out.
From what you are saying, this sounds like it came from the Gambino CLAN, not so much the Gambino FAMILY, cause Castellano did the same, but the Americanized mobsters coulda gave a fuck really. This sounds like something the SICILIANS, specifically woulda had a problem with, not so much the AMERICAN mob.
The fact that supposedly relatives of the Inzerillos and Gambinos were behind the alleged demotion, speaks to this.
Couple questions, 1. Who are the feuding admin members? 2. What is the genesis of said dispute? Is it a specific racket? I can't actually see them demoting someone that capable over some domestic shit, no matter who she's related to.
3. How interconnected are the American and Italian Gambino clans, if the relatives from over there can affect the hierarchy over here? ( No American mobster is going to influence who is a boss in Sicily...)This speaks to an idea I've had for a LONGTIME, that they are trying to reactivate the structural ties between the mafia of Palermo, and the mafia of NYC. Lot of guys say no, I see it otherwise... I really think the Gambinos of Palermo and the Gambinos of New York are the SAME FAMILY, I'm talking the blood relatives here, not the AMERICAN guys.. ( I know Cali is American, but I think y'all know what I mean..)
Again, time will tell here.....
But for real, what was the dispute supposedly? well as for 2. how can they demote the boss if he is in charge (basiclly he is he boss lol)
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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Acting Gambino Boss**
[Re: MrJustsayNo]
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05/14/17 05:20 AM
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@ Furio
That's a good point there.... It's why I want to know what the REAL dispute is supposed to be about, ya know, the MONEY.
What I could see happening, is maybe Cali got a little heavy handed with how much he was taking as tribute, ( this is PURE FUCKIN SPECULATION MIND YOU) and this rubbed a lot of mobsters the wrong way. He is a rich guy after all, a lot of these successful/criminal business types ( Costellos, Castellanos, those Luchesse Bronx guys, and actually the whole Gambino-Bontade-Spatola -DiMaggio- Inzerillo clan...) they keep making the same mistakes over and over throughout history. They value their money more than they value the happiness of the soldiers.
I could see the money thing being the real driver, and it making him "politically" vulnerable to other rivals to capitalize on the domestic shit.
Kinda how Castellano got killed really cause he was too heavy handed with taking tribute from a few key guys he shoulda just let eat. All that, "he woulda ratted", " he's fuckin the maid" , " he ain't Costa Nostra", if he spreads the wealth around, none of that matters.
Gotta had a WHOLE CHILD out of wedlock with the underbosses, what? Daughter or niece? I forget. Sounds bad right? Until you remember HIGHLY respected Chin had a WHOLE NOTHER FAMILY IN JERSEY LOL.
Stay in the same family, Trigger Mike did abortions for fun on his wife, and Genovese was going to let a known rapist/child molester ( Granello ) get an administration slot, against the protest of many mobsters.
So I gotta think that would be the justification, the excuse they used, but it's really about money. Knowing what the dispute is supposedly about would go a long way to ascertaining the truth of all this.
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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Acting Gambino Boss**
[Re: CabriniGreen]
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05/14/17 05:31 AM
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@ Furio
That's a good point there.... It's why I want to know what the REAL dispute is supposed to be about, ya know, the MONEY.
What I could see happening, is maybe Cali got a little heavy handed with how much he was taking as tribute, ( this is PURE FUCKIN SPECULATION MIND YOU) and this rubbed a lot of mobsters the wrong way. He is a rich guy after all, a lot of these successful/criminal business types ( Costellos, Castellanos, those Luchesse Bronx guys, and actually the whole Gambino-Bontade-Spatola -DiMaggio- Inzerillo clan...) they keep making the same mistakes over and over throughout history. They value their money more than they value the happiness of the soldiers.
I could see the money thing being the real driver, and it making him "politically" vulnerable to other rivals to capitalize on the domestic shit.
Kinda how Castellano got killed really cause he was too heavy handed with taking tribute from a few key guys he shoulda just let eat. All that, "he woulda ratted", " he's fuckin the maid" , " he ain't Costa Nostra", if he spreads the wealth around, none of that matters.
Gotta had a WHOLE CHILD out of wedlock with the underbosses, what? Daughter or niece? I forget. Sounds bad right? Until you remember HIGHLY respected Chin had a WHOLE NOTHER FAMILY IN JERSEY LOL.
Stay in the same family, Trigger Mike did abortions for fun on his wife, and Genovese was going to let a known rapist/child molester ( Granello ) get an administration slot, against the protest of many mobsters.
So I gotta think that would be the justification, the excuse they used, but it's really about money. Knowing what the dispute is supposedly about would go a long way to ascertaining the truth of all this. i think its the money also, but we will have to wait for more info. becuase he said that maybe cali has been arrested too.
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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Acting Gambino Boss**
[Re: MrJustsayNo]
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05/14/17 05:31 AM
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What I could understand is the Sicilians being angry over is the " Bad Form".
Getting arrested over a bullshit domestic IS ACTUALLY KINDA BAD BEHAVIOR FOR A BOSS, if this is true. It reminds of Massino shoplifting aspirin or whatever while on the lam, okay that was just dumb, maybe not like that, lol....
It reminds of Sammys book, when he tells the story of Toddo Aurello being scolded by Gambino for embarrassing his wife in public. Not cause he had a girlfriend. The bad form.
This is the thing JustSayKnow, the FEDs are all over anything these guys do, the media too. Was this in at least NYC media? Like local news? Would they have clout enough to keep it out the papers? They seem to publicize even the most boring mob cases. This seems like something media would get a lot of mileage out of. See in THAT CASE, it would make total sense for a demotion, cause he's bringing the family heat, AND embarrassment, not just in the public eye, but amongst other wise guys too.....
This makes me think TommyGambino might be right, maybe, just MAYBE John Gambino IS the final word. He's the only one left I think with that type of clout over there and over here... And why would the top slot keep going to like, " One of the click", as opposed to an American born guy?
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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Acting Gambino Boss**
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05/14/17 07:40 AM
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This makes me think TommyGambino might be right, maybe, just MAYBE John Gambino IS the final word. He's the only one left I think with that type of clout over there and over here...
I agree with TommyG. John Gambino has incredible clout on both sides of the Atlantic for decades, we're talking almost 40 years here. If this was the 70's they probably would've been more open about his position of authority, but in this day and age a boss can only operate successfully from the shadows and make it seem other people are boss and leave LE, the media (and nosy people like us  ) in a state of constant confusion.
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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Acting Gambino Boss**
[Re: MrJustsayNo]
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05/14/17 08:09 AM
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I tend to agree with this. Im sure the bs arrest was just a straw that broke a back. I do know for a fact that the Gambino power is all about bensonhurst brooklyn. Mannino has been around a long time and is respected. We shall see.
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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Acting Gambino Boss**
[Re: MrJustsayNo]
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05/14/17 09:00 AM
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Isn't Cali nephew to Mannino???
"Whackin' the boss....another thing I get left out of."
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Re: Lorenzo Mannino Acting Gambino Boss**
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05/14/17 09:31 AM
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