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Re: president trump
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05/19/17 05:23 PM
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https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0excerpt of article WASHINGTON — President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting. “I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” Mr. Trump added, “I’m not under investigation.” The conversation, during a May 10 meeting — the day after he fired Mr. Comey — reinforces the notion that Mr. Trump dismissed him primarily because of the bureau’s investigation into possible collusion between his campaign and Russian operatives. Mr. Trump said as much in one televised interview, but the White House has offered changing justifications for the firing. Newsletter Sign Up Continue reading the main story Breaking News Emails Get the latest on President Trump and James Comey — and other major news — delivered to your email inbox. Receive occasional updates and special offers for The New York Times's products and services. Privacy Policy The White House document that contained Mr. Trump’s comments was based on notes taken from inside the Oval Office and has been circulated as the official account of the meeting. One official read quotations to The Times, and a second official confirmed the broad outlines of the discussion. Continue reading the main story The Trump White House The historic moments, head-spinning developments and inside-the-White House intrigue. Bob Casey Was an Understated Senator. Then Came Trump. MAY 19 G.O.P. Highlights Alternate Legislative Universe as Trump’s Woes Pile Up MAY 19 Fact Check: Trump Is Contradictory on Comey and Misleading on Russia MAY 18 Amid Trump Turmoil, Some Begin Eyeing Mike Pence MAY 18 Cloud of Special Investigation Could Linger Over Trump’s Presidency MAY 18 See More » Related Coverage Comey, Unsettled by Trump, Is Said to Have Wanted Him Kept at a Distance MAY 18, 2017 Trump, Citing ‘a Witch Hunt,’ Denies Any Collusion With Russia MAY 18, 2017 Trump Says There Was ‘No Collusion’ With the Russians MAY 18, 2017 Trump Team Knew Flynn Was Under Investigation Before He Came to White House MAY 17, 2017 Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation MAY 16, 2017 Sean Spicer, the White House press secretary, did not dispute the account.
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Re: president trump
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05/19/17 07:26 PM
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trump said with russians in meeting..... comey is a nut job, firing him is taking the heat off me, he just admitted why he fired comey, and set himself up for charges of obstruction of justice, also rance prebius called comey to ask him to lay off gen.michael flynn. things are going to get much, much, hotter.
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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Re: Just a Prediction . . .
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05/19/17 09:52 PM
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U talkin' da me ??
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President Trump will be the Hercules to the Media Hydra:  He will defeat the Media Hydra with his club and fire. The Hydra has poisonous breath and blood so virulent that even its scent is deadly. The 7 heads of the Media Hydra:
- CNN
- ABC NEWS
- NBC NEWS
- CBS NEWS
- MSNBC
- NY TIMES
- WASHINGTON POST
"It's nothing personal, Sonny....... It's strictly business."
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Re: Just a Prediction . . .
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05/20/17 09:29 AM
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President Trump will be the Hercules to the Media Hydra: Take it from me. If you like a public figure and the media is going after them, It's natural to view it the way you're doing it. I've done it myself. Eventually though, I had to admit to myself, that most of the criticisms were valid in 90% of the cases. The anti-politician image that Trump has helped him get into office, but his lack of political experience is a shortcoming. A glaring shortcoming and it's not funny anymore.
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Re: Just a Prediction . . .
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05/20/17 01:20 PM
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The New York Times, Washington Post and CNN have been using more of these anonymous sources and unseen documents in their stories. So how do we know that any of these sources are true? We don't, and some have turned out to be false. There are a lot of federal employees who don't like Trump and some of them are leaking information, some of it false information.
Trump has big mouth, tweets too much, says stupid things, acts like a bully, and I could go on, but there's no evidence of Russian collusion or obstruction of justice. Zero. James Comey testified that there's no obstruction and even Sen. Dianne Feinstein and Rep. Pelosi said there's no evidence of collusion. Alan Dershowitz, who voted for Hillary, said there's no reason for an appointment of a special investigator except for people wanting to cover their asses. Meanwhile, Rep. Maxine Waters is creating tin foil hat conspiracy theories and calls for his impeachment NOW.
Instead of all this witch hunting, the media needs to just stick with the facts and lay off the partisan speculation.
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Re: Just a Prediction . . .
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05/21/17 03:58 PM
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Gets,
From what I've learned, the media usually holds on to stories when they're protecting somebody. When they don't like someone, and especially when they have something big, they want to release it as soon as they can. They want to get the big scoop before another paper does, since it can mean getting a Pulitzer Prize. That's what happened with Watergate. giving the russians classified information doesn't disturb you? trump admitting obstruction of justice, you are ok with that? white house not denying that, when are you going to understand that this president is unstable. and nothing but putins puppet,are you in denial, faithful.
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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Re: president trump
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06/03/17 07:51 AM
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Top 10 Reasons Russiagate is a Farce http://listverse.com/2017/06/03/top-10-reasons-russiagate-is-a-farce/Lack of Evidence
With insider information on the Trump administration being leaked to the press with ritual frequency, Americans can be fairly certain that if any incriminating evidence regarding Trump and the Russians existed, it would have already been leaked. Sensitive conversations shared between the highest political posts in the Oval Office are repeatedly revealed to the media, often read as word-for-word accounts of conversations between Trump and important foreign officials.
So far, White House leaks have allowed the press—and therefore, the American people—unprecedented access to office gossip between low-level aides and internal disputes involving belligerent staffers. More serious breaches of national security include phone calls between the president and foreign heads of state as well as undisclosed Oval Office meetings with Russian officials.[3]
Though President Trump has been the subject of persistent systemic efforts to leak compromising information, his approval rating remains fundamentally unchanged in the wake of any damaging direct evidence. Partisan Double Standards
It is simple to imagine an America where Hillary Clinton is president and, much like her predecessor, the toughest question the media asks her is: “What . . . enchanted you the most about serving in this office?”
The former Secretary of State would certainly get a free pass on ties to Russia. In one particular transaction, Clinton sat on a secretive board that swiftly approved the sale of 20 percent of America’s uranium reserves to a state-owned Russian company despite the potential national security threats such a deal entailed.[7]
Meanwhile, a French-owned company seeking similar board approval for the purchase of significantly less risky defense assets waited two years to have their own proposal approved. Perhaps the sudden urge by investors involved in the uranium deal to donate tens of millions of dollars to the Clinton Foundation or the generous Russian bankers’ payment of $500,000 for a one-hour speech by Bill Clinton would grease the wheels that produced the board’s approval for the deal.
Evidence of a similarly controversial deal between the Trump team and Russian big business would surely result in impeachment hearings. After all, Attorney General Jeff Sessions was compelled to recuse himself from any Russiagate investigations for simply bumping into a Russian ambassador in the presence of numerous other state diplomats at the Republican National Convention in summer 2016, demonstrating the complete intolerance of lawmakers for any interaction with Russian officials. Unreliable Sources
An alarming percentage of media reports making bold accusations about the Trump White House today rely upon uncorroborated sources to support claims of Trump-Putin collusion. Anonymous sources claimed that Comey was requesting more assets to conduct his investigation into Trump’s ties with Moscow just before he was fired.
Justice Department spokesperson Sarah Isgur Flores called this accusation “totally false.” Similarly, unnamed “officials” also claimed that the mass departure of senior State Department officials was motivated by a lack of respect for the incoming president. The truth, according to actual named sources, was that Trump requested the exodus in preparation for installing his own team.
Across the nation, unimaginative journalists are increasingly depending on unreliable or anonymous contacts to describe a chaotic, self-destructive White House living on the edge of impeachment. To relate the story of Comey’s ouster, The Washington Post relied upon “the private accounts of more than 30 officials at the White House.”[9]
In many cases, stories are going to print in which an anonymous source cites an anonymous source. To reinforce the claims of their unnamed sources, news agencies are frequently turning to each other and former Obama appointees, as if to check the journalistic box requiring at least one verifiable reference per article.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: president trump
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06/09/17 12:27 PM
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Getthesenets,
Comey was under oath when he gave his testimony. So if he's lying, then he is subject to perjury. That seems almost inconceivable. While Comey is far from perfect, he comes off as infinitely more believable than Trump.
Comey called b.s. on Trump's ridiculous claim to have taped their conversations. Think about it - if Trump did have Comey on tape and it was favorable for Trump, why wouldn't Trump rush to discredit him by releasing the tapes?
While I was surprised at the revelation of leaking the memo to his buddy at Columbia, remember it was unclassified information. Also, Trump has shown a penchant for trying to block free press when it suits him. Two examples: 1) only allowing Russian media into meeting last month and barring U.S. media; 2) attacking any story that criticizes him as "fake news" on multiple occasions.
The biggest takeaway I had was the meeting Comey described that included Sessions, Kushner, and other high level admin. The meeting broke up and Trump told Comey that they would meet alone. Kushner & Sessions lingered because they knew what Trump was going to do - ask Comey to stop the Russian investigation and to back off of Flynn. Trump dismissed Kushner & Sessions so that there would be no witnesses. Trump then appealed to Comey to stop investing Flynn and the Russian ties.
Based upon his first meeting with Trump, Comey said that he didn't trust to tell the truth. To me, that says everything. The FBI Director could not trust the leader of the free world to be honest. Comey made the point that has been overlooked - this is not a Democrat or Republican issue - it's an American issue. If the president or his campaign colluded with an enemy, that should upset everyone in America - regardless of party affiliation.
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Re: president trump
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06/09/17 09:27 PM
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Goombah did you hear Comey's testimony or just word of mouth. One of the reasons he said he leaked what trump told him was to get the special prosecutor to get the tapes that trump said he had if he had them. The key words that trump said was I Hope. That is not a request by any normal persons standards. Even though Comey tried to make it seemed like an order. That was no order. Obama's DOJ told Comey to call Hilary criminal investigate the Hillary matter and not a criminal investigation and Comey did it. That may or may not be criminal on her and him. Yes I watched it all. If the best argument is that Trump "hoped," then that's a weak position. That's as lame as Bill Clinton arguing the definition of "is." Trump has a long history of first trying to charm someone, then intimidate/bully them if charming failed. It will be interesting to see whether some on the right start to distance themselves from Trump. It's becoming clear that Trump is incapable of governing. His only accomplishment in five months is confirming SCOTUS nominee. Healthcare is DOA, the tax revisions were largely dependent on passing healthcare, and the govt is headed for a shutdown in the fall. If I was a Trump voter, what would really disappoint me is how this self-professed genius has been so easily manipulated. The Russians played Trump, he looked like a baffoon with the Saudis, and it looked like even the Pope wanted to be anywhere but in a room with Trump.
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