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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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12/10/17 09:21 PM
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@Hollander
what do you mean with these Clans. What's up with these Clans?
You think this ndrinas are active in Canada? They worked closely with the Aquino-Coluccio from Marina di Gioiosa Ionica. Are you possibly confusing Antonio Macrì of Sinopoli with relatives of Z'ntoni of Siderno? I don't recall any investigations in which the Alvaro-Violi-Macrì cosca has been linked to the Aquino-Coluccio cosca. If you have a source, please share if you don't mind. In Ontario, Carmine Verduci would have felt comfortable operating a crew in Hamilton. His birthplace of Oppido Mamertina likely provided him with natural connections to Giacomo Luppino's relatives, including Paolo Violi's sons Domenico and Giuseppe (regardless of the fact that Paolo Violi's birthplace was Sinopoli). If Verduci's murder was the result of the Toronto-area conflict between the Figliomeni clan and the Aquino-Coluccio clan, do we still consider him a chief plotter in the attempt to topple the Montreal Mafia hierarchy? If his murder wasn't the result of the aforesaid conflict, was he targeted from within the Siderno Group for some other reason that had to do with other internal dissent? Or did Vito Rizzuto exact revenge for Verduci's involvement in the high-profile murders in 2010? I am very curious about James Dubro's thoughts earlier this year about the murder of Angelo Musitano in early May and the firing of shots into Pat Musitano's home in late June. Dubro's source(s) told him that a new player in Hamilton was a new 'ndrangheta cell from the Italian mainland--if there is such a new cell, is it a rival of the Musitano group? the Luppino-Violi group? or of both? ______________ Below is more evidence of the problems that were brewing in the Greater Toronto Area Siderno Group more than five months before the December 2009 murder of Nick Rizzuto Jr. From volume 3 of the Operazione Il Crimine arrest warrants, which refer on pp. 1981–1982 to a July 18, 2009 conversation in Calabria between Vincenzo Tavernese (of Thornhill, just north of Toronto) and Rocco Aquino of Marina di Gioiosa Ionica: Poi il dialogo continua con TAVERNESE che chiede ad AQUINO Rocco di andare a Toronto perché vi sono delle persone che si stanno comportando male con loro:
TAVERNESE V.: vieni a Toronto una quindicina di giorni... AQUINO R.: no… penso che vengo... TAVERNESE V.: devi venire anche per sessantaquattro...(n.d.r.: soprannome) AQUINO R.: no ma io a quest'ora dovrei essere lì... TAVERNESE V.: non puoi lasciare a Vice?..perchè lo devi andare a riprendere in qualche maniera… subito subito...ahh?..perchè solo questo è rimasto..hai capito? AQUINO R.: si... TAVERNESE V.: ehh..perchè ci imbroglia...se ti metti tu non sbroglia nessuno...inc... AQUINO R.: adesso sta con questi due... mi ha detto " che me ne faccio di questi cornuti"... TAVERNESE V.: è bravo...è bravo...ti dico che è una bravissima persona...lui si è cresciuto sempre con tuo zio...ahh? AQUINO R.: me ne fotto di loro... TAVERNESE V.: ahhh?...con..inc...là...hanno preso tutti e due qui... AQUINO R.: ahhh? TAVERNESE V.: capisci?... AQUINO R.: ma noi dobbiamo...inc... TAVERNESE V.: si si ... AQUINO R.: ce ne fottiamo degli altri... TAVERNESE V.: si si con noi...con noi... AQUINO R.: io.. aspetta un attimo...se parliamo di tutti i costi che ha lì sopra.. non eravamo lì da Peppe...inc... erano per fatti loro, a me mi riguarda se facciano una cosa noi... …OMISSIS… dialoghi incomprensibili a causa del basso tono di voce Fino alle ore 10.47.36La conversazione appena riportata appare estremamente interessante poiché dimostra il ruolo di capo ricoperto da AQUINO Rocco (cl. 60), tanto rispettato che, solo con il suo intervento, TAVERNESE ritiene di poter risolvere un contrasto in Canada con un soggetto (indicato come “64”), di origini italiane, che sembrerebbe essere rimasto l’unico a non accordarsi con loro nell’area di Toronto (lett: “perchè solo questo è rimasto”). I'll repeat below what I previously typed in the thread titled "The mafia and a very special flower arrangement" ( http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post922575). Emergeva, tra l’altro, un significativo spaccato sull’operatività criminale di tale sodalizio, storicamente conosciuto come “Siderno Group of Crime”, confermando pienamente la sua dipendenza organizzativa e decisionale dalla “locale madre” sidernese. The preceding sentence essentially states that the GTA Siderno Group, which gets orders from the mother house in Siderno and is supposed to obey said orders, went rogue. So if the GTA Siderno Group started experiencing problems after Giuseppe Coluccio's arrest in July 2008 and, one year later, Vincenzo Tavernese is asking Rocco Aquino to make an appearance in Toronto to quell tensions, was only one faction on board with meddling in Montreal's affairs? Because I can't see the whole commissione (board of control) being unanimously behind such a move.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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12/11/17 06:29 AM
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I feel really presumptuous even posting, I usually just read what you guys post cause you all are so well versed I this topic, but here's a couple a two cents in the hat.....
This situation is very complicated. I think you are correct in the deduction that not all of the Siderno group was behind the moves on the Rizzutos. I think it was the Coluccio group, and maybe the Commissos.
The Violis are related to the Commissos right? And the Coluccios had the connections to the Mexicans right? The Zeta-Gulf organization?
I think the Violis-Commiso-Coluccio group was probably behind it...
Couple of fun facts.......
Don't you find it interesting that the Rizzutos went " rouge" , half the people following don't believe it, but here you have circumstantial evidence that the Toronto Calabrese family based drug clans, APPARENTLY DID THE SAME THING!!?? Lol, I keep telling people it's a consequence of being entrenched in narcotics operations. Drug operations BIRTH criminal syndicates. They are like incubators and steroids for criminal networks.
They dramatized this exact scenario on the second season of Gomorrah. The guy Mico said, " These guys are the worst pigs....... Get permission from this one, go over here talk to this one to get the okay from this guy here...( or some shit like that, he was complaining about the ruling council in Calabria)
And then Gennaro was like " They had a meeting in Polsi, and the Mother ( the holiest of all Mothers, the Calabrese commission) is pissed......
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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03/22/18 08:10 PM
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Link: Mob fugitive arrested in Rome after seven years hiding in Toronto area http://nationalpost.com/news/world/...after-seven-years-hiding-in-toronto-area_______________ From the article: Police in Italy knew [Tito Figlomeni] was in Canada, however, because several wiretaps in Mafia probes kept catching mobsters talking about him and mentioning him. He was involved in a dispute between mob factions in Ontario over illegal video gambling machines in bars and cafes, a dispute that required intervention from the mob clan’s leadership in Siderno, according to court documents from Italy. It may have been that dispute that led to his arrest. Figliomeni was arrested on March 10 by Toronto police when officers were conducting a liquor license inspection, the Post has learned. He was not charged in the liquor probe but arrested on the immigration warrant. Toronto police could not confirm the arrest prior to deadline. CBSA would not confirm or deny his removal, citing privacy concerns....
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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04/02/18 05:12 PM
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The latest murder victim is senior Siderno Group figure Rocco Zito. "Toronto police identify Playfair Ave. shooting victim as Rocco Zito" http://on.thestar.com/1WTvvrLDomenico Scopelliti, charged in January 2016 with the murder of Rocco Zito, his father-in-law, has his trial begin tomorrow at 10:00 am at the Ontario Superior Court of Justice in downtown Toronto. A motion is also scheduled at 10:00 am. The cocaine-trafficking trial of 'ndrangheta member Giuseppe Ursino and 'ndrangheta associate Cosmin Dracea is being held in the same courthouse and continues tomorrow.
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Re: Toronto-area 'ndrangheta internal war
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04/12/18 07:21 PM
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Those of you who are following the various threads regarding the Siderno Group in the Greater Toronto Area know that I've recently been linking to articles written by Peter Edwards, who is covering the cocaine-trafficking trial of Giuseppe Ursino and Cosmin Dracea. The article to which I've linked below could have been been posted in one of a number of threads, but I decided to post here. ‘Respect’ came up at least 33 times in secret tapes, drug trafficking trial told https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/20...t-tapes-drug-trafficking-trial-told.htmlExcerpt: On May 23, 2014, [Carmine] Guido and Ursino spoke elliptically about the murder of reputed York Region mobster Carmine Verduci a month earlier. Verduci was shot dead outside the Regina Café in an industrial and retail plaza near Hwy. 7 and Martin Grove Rd. The killing remains unsolved. Guido told Ursino that a man named Antonio Coluccio ordered the closure of the Regina Café after the murder. “They said close it for respect for Carmine, and they closed it,†Guido said. “What’s Carmine have to do with this?,†Ursino asked. “Because they killed him outside of there,†Guido said. “Closed. I don’t know why but together ... now it’s …†“They were four or five that were involved,†Ursino said in a combination of English and Italian....
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