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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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07/11/17 07:56 AM
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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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07/12/17 05:27 AM
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The Rizzutos are a shadow of its former self, the murder of Rocco Sollicito showed that, how would they make a move in the GTA? I am not the one that said that. I should have replied to Sonny, where he was talking about that article. I think media are only speculating just like we do.
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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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07/12/17 08:05 AM
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The Rizzutos are a shadow of its former self, the murder of Rocco Sollicito showed that, how would they make a move in the GTA? I am not the one that said that. I should have replied to Sonny, where he was talking about that article. I think media are only speculating just like we do. I did post the following article earlier. http://www.torontosun.com/2017/07/03/recent-mob-violence-a-drug-warI believe that is the article Sonny was referring to. Which can very well be a possibility. By partnering with other groups the Rizzuto clan can mount an attack.
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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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07/13/17 05:52 PM
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I should have replied to Sonny, where he was talking about that article. I think media are only speculating just like we do. I did post the following article earlier. http://www.torontosun.com/2017/07/03/recent-mob-violence-a-drug-warI believe that is the article Sonny was referring to. Which can very well be a possibility. By partnering with other groups the Rizzuto clan can mount an attack. Yeah, that was it. Thanks for posting. The Rizzutos are a shadow of its former self, the murder of Rocco Sollicito showed that, how would they make a move in the GTA? Sollecito could've been killed by anyone. Surely the Rizzuto organization has lost some of their grip, but they are still capable to hit back. They've catched a break when the Scoppa group was busted. I wouldn't rule out that they'll come back out on top.
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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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07/31/17 09:43 AM
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Restructuring seems the most likely to me. There is also a theory suggested by a recent article about gangs that are alinged with the Rizzuto-Sollecito making their presence known. Do we know whether the target today is linked to Montreal? As far as I know there is no mention yet to suggest whether it is linked or not. Sonny_Black: I don't know of any ties that the restaurant has to any organized-crime group or activity. The chef-owner of this restaurant used to be the chef at Match Bar and Grill, also in Woodbridge (Vaughan)--this is information that anyone could find using Google. Match closed down several years ago even though business was quite good for a good chunk of time. It had several investors, but I'm not sure the chef had ownership back then.
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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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07/31/17 11:12 AM
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Restructuring seems the most likely to me. There is also a theory suggested by a recent article about gangs that are alinged with the Rizzuto-Sollecito making their presence known. Do we know whether the target today is linked to Montreal? As far as I know there is no mention yet to suggest whether it is linked or not. Sonny_Black: I don't know of any ties that the restaurant has to any organized-crime group or activity. The chef-owner of this restaurant used to be the chef at Match Bar and Grill, also in Woodbridge (Vaughan)--this is information that anyone could find using Google. Match closed down several years ago even though business was quite good for a good chunk of time. It had several investors, but I'm not sure the chef had ownership back then. Antimafia, I think it was Ciment who asked for those specifications (bakery something?) but thanks for explaining.
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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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07/31/17 11:29 AM
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Restructuring seems the most likely to me. There is also a theory suggested by a recent article about gangs that are alinged with the Rizzuto-Sollecito making their presence known. Do we know whether the target today is linked to Montreal? As far as I know there is no mention yet to suggest whether it is linked or not. Sonny_Black: I don't know of any ties that the restaurant has to any organized-crime group or activity. The chef-owner of this restaurant used to be the chef at Match Bar and Grill, also in Woodbridge (Vaughan)--this is information that anyone could find using Google. Match closed down several years ago even though business was quite good for a good chunk of time. It had several investors, but I'm not sure the chef had ownership back then. Antimafia, I think it was Ciment who asked for those specifications (bakery something?) but thanks for explaining. I was responding to your question back on July 11 about whether the restaurant where there was a shooting was linked to Montreal. It's my fault that I took so long to answer your question, but you'll see from one of my posts today in another thread that I also have taken a long time to answer another poster's question.
Last edited by antimafia; 07/31/17 11:30 AM. Reason: Highlighted question my post is answering.
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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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08/06/17 07:08 AM
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Restructuring seems the most likely to me. There is also a theory suggested by a recent article about gangs that are alinged with the Rizzuto-Sollecito making their presence known. Do we know whether the target today is linked to Montreal? As far as I know there is no mention yet to suggest whether it is linked or not. Sonny_Black: I don't know of any ties that the restaurant has to any organized-crime group or activity. The chef-owner of this restaurant used to be the chef at Match Bar and Grill, also in Woodbridge (Vaughan)--this is information that anyone could find using Google. Match closed down several years ago even though business was quite good for a good chunk of time. It had several investors, but I'm not sure the chef had ownership back then. The chef at the restaurant where the shooting took place is one of the owners. He has co-owned several restaurants with a particular individual, including the restaurant in question. This individual is a Commisso, but that's the only information I have for now--this person may not be related to anyone in the Commisso crime group. Vito Rizzuto's wife's cousin in the GTA knows both of these co-owners (there may be more than two). Stay tuned.
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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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08/17/17 11:46 PM
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Thanks for the info. I guess they still haven't released the identity of the other 40 year old person that was shot and survived. A just-published article--link is below--reveals that Saverio Serrano was the victim. It also indicates that Saverio and Silvio Serrano are in fact Diego Serrano's sons, which I guessed at but was never able to confirm. The murdered Antonio Sergi ("Tony Large") was also apparently investigated in Project OPhoenix, which culminated in 2015 in the arrests of Diego Serrano and Giuseppe "Pino" Ursino, among others. (Carmine Verduci would have been arrested had he not been murdered in April 2014.) Link to article that is currently behind a paywall: https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/nat...rticle36024206/If you have the "Instapaper Text" bookmark on your notebook/laptop or desktop PC, you should be able to see and save the article.
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Re: Shootings in York Region (n. of Toronto) in 2017
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08/18/17 12:44 PM
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Thanks again... I figured they were probably related somehow. To be honest, I was leaning toward Silvio and Saverio not being Diego's sons. An article from 2000 about one of Diego's bail hearings mentioned his wife (Connie) and two young sons, all of whom were in court. I assumed one of these sons was Francesco, who is 33 or 34 now, and now I realize he very well might have been there that day. However, when I saw Silvio's and Saverio's names on the staff directory of that lighting company the day of the murder back in March, I then wrongly assumed that neither was one of Diego's two sons because Francesco's name wasn't listed. When I later found a cannabis magazine article that indicated Silvio and Saverio were brothers, I was fairly sure they were not Diego's sons. Again, I wasn't able to find the information I needed to confirm or disconfirm.
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