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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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Joe Pesci was friends with Bobby cabert and his acting in goodfellas was based on him,especially the I am here to Amuse you scene.
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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I would say Tony bender had is ear bent aswell..Bill bonanno was no soft child.He did have the silver spoon past to him but he also clipped guys and done a lot of time.He also protected one of the all time old school godfathers into old age.Bill went to sleep knowing and doing a lot more than anyone on the streets today.
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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I would say Tony bender had is ear bent aswell..Bill bonanno was no soft child.He did have the silver spoon past to him but he also clipped guys and done a lot of time.He also protected one of the all time old school godfathers into old age.Bill went to sleep knowing and doing a lot more than anyone on the streets today. I will give you that on Bill Bonanno. He did his time. Junior Gotti did his time too. He just always felt very fake to me. Bill Bonanno seemed like a country club kid when put on his gangster hat and tried to live a street life. Maybe I'm wrong...but I do see your point.
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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I would say previte and veasey but i dont care what they said on the stand and to the feds they were never inducted. PMAC - John Veasey was never inducted either? I usually think I know my LCN shit. Your comments on Previte and Veasey are new to me. At the same time, I don't remember hearing about their induction ceremony. So I guess what you are saying makes sense. Both were debriefed by FBI and their stories are well told. I don't remember the making ceremony. Damn...
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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I would say Tony bender had is ear bent aswell..Bill bonanno was no soft child.He did have the silver spoon past to him but he also clipped guys and done a lot of time.He also protected one of the all time old school godfathers into old age.Bill went to sleep knowing and doing a lot more than anyone on the streets today. I will give you that on Bill Bonanno. He did his time. Junior Gotti did his time too. He just always felt very fake to me. Bill Bonanno seemed like a country club kid when put on his gangster hat and tried to live a street life. Maybe I'm wrong...but I do see your point. He probably only ended up in the life because of the Sicilian tradition of sons following their fathers into the mob. Tommy Gambino would be another. I'm not calling him a douche, he's probably a gentleman but there's no way he winds up in the mob if he wasn't the son of Carlo. Bright guy, private education, college degree.
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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After seeing Granellos name in here, Ima have to reconsider my stance on Genovese....
He woulda let a child molester run the family, this pretty much disqualifies ANY praise for his so called IQ........ Granello never ran the Genovese, I think it was rumored that he was a candidate to take over the family after Genovese passed away. I do think that it is interesting that the two families considered to be the most elite, the Genovese (Granello) and Chicago (DeStefano) had two of the biggest sickos/sociopaths in the history of OC as members. It just goes to show that as long as you are a huge earner, which they both were, you will be protected, until you become too much of a liability, in which case you will die a very painful death.
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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As an example of how ruthless these guys can be, look at what Gerry Catena, one of the wealthiest mobsters ever, and greatly respected, had done to a bunch of innocent civilians because a grocery store would not stock a type of beach that he wanted to be on the shelves: http://www.cosanostranews.com/2016/08/when-mafia-took-supermarket-to-war.htmlAbsolutely horrible, and this guy was considered to be level headed and relatively restrained compared to guys like Anastasia, Capone, Genovese, Giancana, etc. Just about all of these guys are horrible people who will stop at nothing to get what they want.
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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I would say Tony bender had is ear bent aswell..Bill bonanno was no soft child.He did have the silver spoon past to him but he also clipped guys and done a lot of time.He also protected one of the all time old school godfathers into old age.Bill went to sleep knowing and doing a lot more than anyone on the streets today. I will give you that on Bill Bonanno. He did his time. Junior Gotti did his time too. He just always felt very fake to me. Bill Bonanno seemed like a country club kid when put on his gangster hat and tried to live a street life. Maybe I'm wrong...but I do see your point. He probably only ended up in the life because of the Sicilian tradition of sons following their fathers into the mob. Tommy Gambino would be another. I'm not calling him a douche, he's probably a gentleman but there's no way he winds up in the mob if he wasn't the son of Carlo. Bright guy, private education, college degree. Tommy Gambino is not a douche. More gentleman and not a street guy.
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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I would say previte and veasey but i dont care what they said on the stand and to the feds they were never inducted. I thought it was pretty well accepted that Veasey and Fillipelli got inducted at the same time. Veasey's testimony about it seems pretty legitimate.
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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@ JC That was a great post on Gerry Catena. He's one of those guys I find MUCH more interesting than the guys we usually hear about. I find it kind of funny, like you say the Genovese are supposed to be, like, the "sophisticated gentleman"... Lol, To me they have always been the snakiest family, with as many nut jobs as anyone. Contrast Catena move on the supermarket chain with how Paul Castellano went about it. Paul actually make this seem like amateur hour shit. Same thing, Catena has his bleach, or what ever. But no Union clout there, so no leverage with the supermarket. Castellano had his meat companies, but meat falls under the jurisdiction of the unions, cause it has to be trucked in. So Pauls move on the supermarkets was much more sophisticated. Edit; Another example is Ettore Zappi, look at how he puts together his " Matress racket". .... https://books.google.com/books?id=jgCpxT...ses&f=falseJust much more sophistication..... I've never really bought into the generally accepted truths that the Genovese are a bunch of white collar gentlemen. The whole family is based on wholesale extortion of NYC, that takes a hell of a lot of fear, more than business acumen.... Also,most of Catena wealth was from coin machines, I'm pretty positive he was partners with the Outfit on a lot of those operations.....
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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I would say previte and veasey but i dont care what they said on the stand and to the feds they were never inducted. I thought it was pretty well accepted that Veasey and Fillipelli got inducted at the same time. Veasey's testimony about it seems pretty legitimate. I thought so too! PMAC is a good poster in here and I like his stuff. I think Previte and Veasey were made members. I don't know now....
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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@ JC That was a great post on Gerry Catena. He's one of those guys I find MUCH more interesting than the guys we usually hear about. I find it kind of funny, like you say the Genovese are supposed to be, like, the "sophisticated gentleman"... Lol, To me they have always been the snakiest family, with as many nut jobs as anyone. Contrast Catena move on the supermarket chain with how Paul Castellano went about it. Paul actually make this seem like amateur hour shit. Same thing, Catena has his bleach, or what ever. But no Union clout there, so no leverage with the supermarket. Castellano had his meat companies, but meat falls under the jurisdiction of the unions, cause it has to be trucked in. So Pauls move on the supermarkets was much more sophisticated. Edit; Another example is Ettore Zappi, look at how he puts together his " Matress racket". .... https://books.google.com/books?id=jgCpxT...ses&f=falseJust much more sophistication..... I've never really bought into the generally accepted truths that the Genovese are a bunch of white collar gentlemen. The whole family is based on wholesale extortion of NYC, that takes a hell of a lot of fear, more than business acumen.... Also,most of Catena wealth was from coin machines, I'm pretty positive he was partners with the Outfit on a lot of those operations..... Catena also had a lot of ton of legitimate interests in things like Standard Oil, Hellman's Mayonaise, etc. The Genovese also had plenty of union clout, some were different unions than those where the Gambinos had interests. My point is that as relatively sophisticated and intelligent as Catena was, he was at his core a violent man, as at the time particularly you could not get to where he was in that line of work without a violent streak. Just about all of those guys were and are the same, greedy and violent. That is why guys like Granello and DeStefano hung around for as long as they did, they were big earners. Guys like Catena and Accardo really did not care where the money came from, as long as it kept coming. As for Castellano, yes he was considered to be a smart businessman, but he also could be vindictive and violent. From what I remember he had a friend of his daughter's killed because it got back to him that the kid said that he looked like Frank Perdue. He couldn't have let that go, or at most had some one give the kid a beating? As horrible as what Catena was with the supermarket workers, at least there was some business reason for his actions. What was Castellano's excuse?
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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Natale..banging his daughters friend..walking around like he was don fanucci..epitome of a douchebag... This is a great answer. Natale is the damn worst. Completely full of shit and delusional
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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Always laugh when Natale is on the news... he's so funny. You know that shit rat Dominick Cicale, Vinny Gorgeous's pet? I think Natale is just as bad as him. A friend knows I like mob books and saw Natale's book and was about to gift it to me... I basically told her she couldn't have picked a worse one. lol.
The funny shit he says like he knows where Hoffa is, and he got made by rubbing blood with Bruno and Don Carlo... fucking fairytales, unbelievable. Oh and give him and gun and send him to ISIS cause he'll take care of them too. And the funniest thing ever is that he's a fucking rat too! This would all be hilarious even if he wasn't a rat, but the fact that he is makes it 10x funnier! I must admit though he is healthy and in shape for a 82 year old.
-I shot him a coupla' times.
-What's a couple?
-Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times?
-Maybe fifteen?
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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This would all be hilarious even if he wasn't a rat, but the fact that he is makes it 10x funnier! I must admit though he is healthy and in shape for a 82 year old. Co-signed, the way he tells the stories with those 2 remaining teeth in his mouth makes it even funnier. He reminds me of Gargamel, the Smurfs' eternal nemesis..
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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Always laugh when Natale is on the news... he's so funny. You know that shit rat Dominick Cicale, Vinny Gorgeous's pet? I think Natale is just as bad as him. A friend knows I like mob books and saw Natale's book and was about to gift it to me... I basically told her she couldn't have picked a worse one. lol.
The funny shit he says like he knows where Hoffa is, and he got made by rubbing blood with Bruno and Don Carlo... fucking fairytales, unbelievable. Oh and give him and gun and send him to ISIS cause he'll take care of them too. And the funniest thing ever is that he's a fucking rat too! This would all be hilarious even if he wasn't a rat, but the fact that he is makes it 10x funnier! I must admit though he is healthy and in shape for a 82 year old. Wow...you convinced me. Natale is a huge douchebag. He's dumb book raises his douchebag level by 10. I gotta put Natale at #2 on my list behind Bill Bonanno. He's worse than Junior "Blinky" Gotti.
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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Little Dom Cataldo... feared hitman and good moneymaker, in the late 1970s he started getting heavy into coke and getting more and more paranoid. Sal Polisi and Joe Dogs Iannuzzi both tell of a story he told where he was going to bury a body and he asked an associate for help, went upstate where he had previously buried dozens of other bodies, and while burying the body he and his associate, who's standing over the open grave, Dom asks him to check the victim's pockets for a wallet, ID and cash which he does and gives it to Dom. Dom thanks him and shoots him behind the head. He would tell this story to the guys and laugh like a maniac.
According to them Dom had whacked over two dozen people at the very least. He's also been suspected in whacking Gerard Pappa.
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Re: Biggest Douchebag Made Man of All Time
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How about Angelo Ruggerio?
Anyone who got tapped, he seemed to end up on the tapes. couldnt keep his mouth shut at all. Got DB killed, even though the guy was no threat to him.
demanded he be underboss, even though he clearly wasnt admin material, then mouths off to the judge who COULDA given him bail, disqualifying him for the position he was making so much noise for, and at the same time time depriving Gotti of a trusted guy on the outside.
Tried to hit Casso, (which was in my opinion, out of his league..) over drugs, (which he was a newcomer to, and not even supposed to be doing..) RIGHT before casso is made underboss, and
he basically has the chins ear, the chief rival of Gotti.
Self proclaimed brokester , i quote, " My brother Sal, he MADE me make money.."
i feel like im forgetting some things, but it seems if it wernt for Gotti and Dellacroce, he woulda been dead, probably never even made. OH i forgot, he wouldnt give up the tapes, so therte is that too....
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