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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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12/13/17 12:58 AM
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He's a friend of yours too, why else is he here He is not a friend of mine, do you actually think that he is a friend of yours? If so, that is really sad, you need to leave the fantasy world in your head and join the real world.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
[Re: antimafia]
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12/13/17 07:20 AM
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The article mentions:
"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."
I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose. One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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12/13/17 09:19 AM
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The article mentions:
"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."
I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose. One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man. This newer article's claims, of course, clash with those in Daniel Renaud's article, which was published some 14 or 15 hours earlier than Thibault's. Mirarchi's allies in Ottawa, Ontario may very well be the long-established 'ndrina that answers to the Siderno Group in the Toronto area. But again, I suspect that whatever animosity existed between some elements of the GTA Siderno Group and the remnants of the Sollecito-Rizzuto faction may now be over. Cosimo Commisso's wife is Facebook friends with one of Giovanna Rizzuto's first cousins in the GTA whose father headed (heads?) the Toronto Sicilian Group--Giovanna's uncle has longstanding ties, including criminal ones, to the Commisso brothers and other senior Siderno Group figures. Elena Veltri (Agostino [BadWord]'s wife) is Facebook friends with Giuseppe "Little Joe" [BadWord] (Paolo's son). I'm not at all embarrassed that I scour social media, which law enforcement also does, to find photos, posts, and comments that all help to untangle possible relationships between individuals and between groups of people. If the GTA Siderno Group does not want to help Mirarchi in whatever war he may continue to wage in Montreal, he will still probably criminally collaborate with the Siderno Group. If Paolo Violi's sons have chosen, for whatever reason, to affiliate themselves with the New York Bonannos--I'm theorizing based on the recent Project Otremens bust--then I don't know what relationship Domenico and Giuseppe have with Mirarchi and Desjardins today.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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12/13/17 09:27 AM
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The article mentions:
"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."
I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose. One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man. Agreed yet again. I think he has as much change of becoming the next godfather as Leonardo Rizzuto. He has too many enemies to be unanimously accepted as the supreme leader. It isn't even that long ago that there were reports stating that there wouldn't be another godfather and that the clans opposing the Rizzuto group wanted a horizontal structure. This article won't help much either. It's better to rise to the top silently. Perhaps a tactic applied by the police to stirr things up? Speaking of which, during the Charbonneau hearings the RCMP stated that Le Clan Calabrais was in power. Then a year later Rizzuto came home and all of a sudden he was back on top again..
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
[Re: Sonny_Black]
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12/13/17 10:26 AM
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The article mentions:
"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."
I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose. One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man. Agreed yet again. I think he has as much change of becoming the next godfather as Leonardo Rizzuto. He has too many enemies to be unanimously accepted as the supreme leader. It isn't even that long ago that there were reports stating that there wouldn't be another godfather and that the clans opposing the Rizzuto group wanted a horizontal structure. This article won't help much either. It's better to rise to the top silently. Perhaps a tactic applied by the police to stirr things up? Speaking of which, during the Charbonneau hearings the RCMP stated that Le Clan Calabrais was in power. Then a year later Rizzuto came home and all of a sudden he was back on top again.. RCMP Corp. Linda Féquière made that statement on September 25, 2012 about the "Calabrian" clan (you know, the one led by Raynald Desjardins from Catanzaro). Rizzuto was released 10 days later on October 5. Di Maulo was killed November 4. But, yes, I think that it would be safe to say that Rizzuto took about a year to perhaps gain back a bit of power that he once held and to feel comfortable being seen in certain places and travelling to them--he even visited York Region, the GTA Siderno Group's base, when he attended the wedding of Frank Campoli's daughter Jeanette on Saturday, September 14, 2013.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
[Re: antimafia]
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12/13/17 11:16 AM
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The article mentions:
"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."
I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose. One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man. Agreed yet again. I think he has as much change of becoming the next godfather as Leonardo Rizzuto. He has too many enemies to be unanimously accepted as the supreme leader. It isn't even that long ago that there were reports stating that there wouldn't be another godfather and that the clans opposing the Rizzuto group wanted a horizontal structure. This article won't help much either. It's better to rise to the top silently. Perhaps a tactic applied by the police to stirr things up? Speaking of which, during the Charbonneau hearings the RCMP stated that Le Clan Calabrais was in power. Then a year later Rizzuto came home and all of a sudden he was back on top again.. RCMP Corp. Linda Féquière made that statement on September 25, 2012 about the "Calabrian" clan (you know, the one led by Raynald Desjardins from Catanzaro). Rizzuto was released 10 days later on October 5. Di Maulo was killed November 4. But, yes, I think that it would be safe to say that Rizzuto took about a year to perhaps gain back a bit of power that he once held and to feel comfortable being seen in certain places and travelling to them--he even visited York Region, the GTA Siderno Group's base, when he attended the wedding of Frank Campoli's daughter Jeanette on Saturday, September 14, 2013. Yeah, I was mixing 2013 up with 2012. But this timeline makes their statement even more ironic. If Le Clan Calabrais was really in power then there was remarkably little opposition. Di Maulo killed as a sitting duck with no retribution. Then in January or February 2013 (your impeccable memory will correct me I'm sure) Rizzuto was seen out in the open with no bodyguards at Montreal airport and approachable by journalists. A fairly clear sign that at that stage he had regained a bit of power and felt comfortable traveling without security.
"It was between the brothers Kay -- I had nothing to do with it."
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
[Re: Sonny_Black]
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12/13/17 03:53 PM
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The article mentions:
"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."
I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose. One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man. Agreed yet again. I think he has as much change of becoming the next godfather as Leonardo Rizzuto. He has too many enemies to be unanimously accepted as the supreme leader. It isn't even that long ago that there were reports stating that there wouldn't be another godfather and that the clans opposing the Rizzuto group wanted a horizontal structure. This article won't help much either. It's better to rise to the top silently. Perhaps a tactic applied by the police to stirr things up? Speaking of which, during the Charbonneau hearings the RCMP stated that Le Clan Calabrais was in power. Then a year later Rizzuto came home and all of a sudden he was back on top again.. LINDA FÉQUIÈRE statement made at the Charboneau Inquiry, tranlated to English: Q.Who are now the actors of the COTI(LE CRIME ORGANISÉ TRADITIONNEL ITALIEN) in Quebec, following Project Colisée ? A. I will answer very briefly because those people are currently being investigated. But it will suffice to say that it is mostly people who belong to a faction of the Calabrian wing of the Italian organized crime. I'm not trying to to say that the Sicilian faction is completely disappeared, however there is a return of the organized crime of Calabrian origin that followed the arrest and extradition of Mr. Vito Rizzuto. I believe that was the statement that was given at the Charboneau inquiry and it seems to be accurate. The pendulum was swinging in favor of the Calabrian clan especially when high level members from the Sicilian clan were being killed. When Rizzuto was released from jail the pendulum started swinging in the opposite direction in favor of the Sicilian clan. It possible that the media twisted her words around to increase ratings.I don't recall if she made other remarks, I would have to read all her testimony.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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12/13/17 04:27 PM
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The article mentions:
"According to police circles, Vittorio Mirarchi having gotten his freedom yesterday, is predicted to be the next godfather of the Montreal mafia."
I just find the comments by law enforcement to be premature. I do not think for a moment that the Rizzuto clan will accept him. Too much blood as been spilled, the sons of Sollecito,Cun-trera, Spagnolo,Rizzuto are still in play wanting to avenge their fathers deaths.Even if they do accept, it will only be temporary. What Mirarchi has got going for him are his connections with the Ontario Calabrians. I could also see some of the rival gangs unite behind him if he chooses to assume the position. It will also depend which sides the Hells will choose. One thing for sure, whoever assumes the throne will be a marked man. Agreed yet again. I think he has as much change of becoming the next godfather as Leonardo Rizzuto. He has too many enemies to be unanimously accepted as the supreme leader. It isn't even that long ago that there were reports stating that there wouldn't be another godfather and that the clans opposing the Rizzuto group wanted a horizontal structure. This article won't help much either. It's better to rise to the top silently. Perhaps a tactic applied by the police to stirr things up? Speaking of which, during the Charbonneau hearings the RCMP stated that Le Clan Calabrais was in power. Then a year later Rizzuto came home and all of a sudden he was back on top again.. RCMP Corp. Linda Féquière made that statement on September 25, 2012 about the "Calabrian" clan (you know, the one led by Raynald Desjardins from Catanzaro). Rizzuto was released 10 days later on October 5. Di Maulo was killed November 4. But, yes, I think that it would be safe to say that Rizzuto took about a year to perhaps gain back a bit of power that he once held and to feel comfortable being seen in certain places and travelling to them--he even visited York Region, the GTA Siderno Group's base, when he attended the wedding of Frank Campoli's daughter Jeanette on Saturday, September 14, 2013. Yeah, I was mixing 2013 up with 2012. But this timeline makes their statement even more ironic. If Le Clan Calabrais was really in power then there was remarkably little opposition. Di Maulo killed as a sitting duck with no retribution. Then in January or February 2013 (your impeccable memory will correct me I'm sure) Rizzuto was seen out in the open with no bodyguards at Montreal airport and approachable by journalists. A fairly clear sign that at that stage he had regained a bit of power and felt comfortable traveling without security. http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...-a-montreal.phphttp://www.journaldemontreal.com/2013/09...-a-vito-rizzutoIn the above article they mention that Vito bought a bullet proof vehicle. Then they set fire to the place where he plays golf(article above). I doubt that he was traveling without security. I thing the journalist thing may have been planned(PR) to show he is now in charge.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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12/13/17 06:27 PM
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https://twitter.com/IsabelleRicherThere was an interview with Cedilot,author of Murder Inc., about Vittorio Mirarchi. It kind of confirms most of the things we have been saying. They say he has strong connections with Ottawa, Toronto and Hamilton organized crime. The author goes on saying that he was relatively unknown until his name started to appear in the early 2000's along with Desjardins & Mirarchi developed close ties with the Hells Angels. Back then he was considered to be a wealthy person. Cedilot echoed what police circles have been say about him being the next Mafia boss. Probably right after his father Antonio Mirarchi died and Raynald became his second dad.
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Re: Why the mob war in Montreal may be far from over
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12/14/17 07:45 AM
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http://www.lapresse.ca/actualites/justic...dominicaine.phpDec.14,2017 MEXICO AND THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC THE HELLS PERSONA NON GRATA DANIEL RENAUD THE PRESS If Quebec Hells Angels have planned to spend the holidays in the South and have already bought their plane tickets, they could have a bad surprise. It seems that Mexico and the Dominican Republic do not want our bikers anymore. The press has learned from various sources that for a little over a year, a dozen individuals, members of the Hells Angels, ex-members or relations of this group of bikers, were turned back on their arrival at an airport in Mexico or the Dominican Republic. The trend seems to have intensified in recent weeks, according to our information. "Some guys came to Mexico, some with their family or their spouse, for a vacation, and they were told to go back home because they were linked to organized crime," said a source from the judiciary. Another informant told us that in addition to the individuals who were turned back, at least one other man, the Hells Angels' relationship, was interrogated and searched for a long time before the Mexican authorities finally accepted his presence on their territory. HUBS FOR IMPORTING COCAINE Mexico and the Dominican Republic - where the Hells Angels have a section in Santo Domingo with former Quebec members - are countries considered to be hubs for the importation of cocaine into Canada, and the pretensions Canadian authorities are that the Quebec Hells Angels meet or meet with each other and conduct business when they visit these countries, even with relatives. Some rumors want the Mexican authorities to have a list of Quebec bikers who would be consulted at the customs posts. Local police officers, however, told La Presse , on condition of anonymity, that Canadian authorities would never dare to provide such a list because of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms and the risk of prosecution. Rather, they believe that the information obtained by Mexican customs officials could come from Interpol, an international organization that brings together police forces from 192 countries, including Canada, through which they help each other and exchange information. "The truth is that Mexico and the Dominican Republic do not want our bikers anymore. They are already fed up with their organized crime. It is their police force that calls ours to get information, "we were told yesterday. "I confirm that we have excellent cooperation with the authorities of these countries, but the refoulement of some Quebec bikers on their arrival there, this decision belongs to the local authorities," said the Inspector Guy Lapointe, the Sûreté du Québec, which has the mandate to fight against criminal bikers in the province. "A PREROGATIVE OF IMMIGRATION OFFICERS" Joined by La Presse , an employee of the Mexican Consulate in Montreal, Zoila Sanchez, did not want to comment directly on the situation. "Any decision on entry into the country issued by an immigration officer shall be made by assessing the specific case and on the basis of respect or non-compliance with the migratory provisions the limits of which are laid down in the Constitution, the Treaties and the international agreements of which the Mexican State is a part, the Immigration Act and applicable general legal provisions. As in most countries, the knowledge, resolution and enforcement of expulsion or assisted return of foreigners, under the terms and conditions established in the law, [are] a prerogative of immigration officers, in the the case of Mexico, the National Institute of Immigration ", she wrote to us by e-mail. Sources told La Presse that links have been somewhat tighter in recent years between Canadian police forces and those in Mexico and several Central and South American countries. Regularly, the authorities of these countries even monitor the whereabouts of Canadian criminals and give information to the Canadian authorities. In addition to the Hells Angels section in the Dominican Republic, Quebec bikers would have been instrumental in the recent creation of another section of the Hells Angels in Quito, Ecuador, according to Quebec police. If, after the end of the Sharqc procedures and the return of the Hells Angels in Quebec, the police here hoped for a way to hurt the bikers, the shot seems to carry. Some information suggests that the Hells Angels do not like to be forced back into countries they have traditionally visited. If the refusals become systematic, they will have to migrate to other seaside resorts. To contact Daniel Renaud, call 514 285-7000, ext. 4918, write to drenaud@lapresse.ca or write to La Presse's mailing address . Bikers who have been driven back abroad Christian Ménard , HA Montreal (Sherbrooke), Mexico November 2016 Roch Delaney , HA South, Dominican Republic December 2016 Eric Bouffard , HA South, Dominican Republic December 2016 Stéphane Maheu , HA South, Dominican Republic March 2017 Dean Moore , HA South, Mexico March 2017 Mario Brouillette , former member of Trois-Rivières, Mexico August 2017 Jean-Judes Faucher , HA Quebec, Mexico November 2017 Bernard Plourde , HA Trois-Rivières November 2017
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