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Re: Mobsters come back after long sentences
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12/20/17 02:46 PM
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What happen when a mobsters come back after a long sentence ? Madonna was made and climb the rank,peter limone becomed boss while long john martorano was killed 3 y after been released. So what would happen while Carneglia and Gene Gotti will go out ? Nothing..If they're smart they'd stay home. Nothing is the same, They're fish out of water.
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Re: Mobsters come back after long sentences
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What happen when a mobsters come back after a long sentence ? Madonna was made and climb the rank,peter limone becomed boss while long john martorano was killed 3 y after been released. So what would happen while Carneglia and Gene Gotti will go out ? Nothing..If they're smart they'd stay home. Nothing is the same, They're fish out of water. So no prize for Gene Gotti that get 50 y cause his brother ? Limone was 65 y but returned to life even the 20 milions.
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Re: Mobsters come back after long sentences
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12/20/17 10:19 PM
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What happen when a mobsters come back after a long sentence ? Madonna was made and climb the rank,peter limone becomed boss while long john martorano was killed 3 y after been released. So what would happen while Carneglia and Gene Gotti will go out ? Nothing..If they're smart they'd stay home. Nothing is the same, They're fish out of water. So no prize for Gene Gotti that get 50 y cause his brother ? Limone was 65 y but returned to life even the 20 milions. Neutrally speaking, I'm not quite sure what you even imagine the "prize" may be. He's 72. You really think people are waiting to fall in line? Frankly speaking, he got 50 years for dealing heroin behind everyones back, he did the 50 years. Nobody took it personally that he was trafficking, nobody came after him over it, most liked Gene and told him to lam when the sentencing came down. But he did the time he earned for something everyone would have told him not to do. Nobody is waiting to fall in line being a truck hijacking heroin dealer from the late 80's who never advanced his criminal enterprises past entry to mid-level scores outside of drugs.
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Re: Mobsters come back after long sentences
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12/24/17 10:07 PM
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few examples of ppl that got admin spots after prison terms: - sonny franzese - Rastelli - Persico - Galante (kind of) All of u are reading too much into LCN myth/ well the good old days The reality is nobody gives a shit if Gene has done X amount of yrs. yes they might show him some respect but it’s all to do with MONEY & if he steps on toes- there’ll be a problem And believe me nobody enjoys having to share their money. Unless it’s guys that do kick up out of fear ie Galante came out after 20yrs and strongarmed his way into the rackets Only reason he got away with it for some time was fear/ had nothing to do with how much time he did or how he kept his mouth shut Now IF that does play a part- again it boils down to “how useful is this guy” perhaps Gene can be of use (when I say useful- what I mean is if he can make me money) Rusty was only respected because he had guys on the streets who were still loyal to him If Carmine Persico was released tomo, I’ve heard he has a lot of blood relatives on the streets. Therefore he’ll fit right in due to that connection So it all boils down to- how much “connection” does Gene or anyone who comes out have with the streets My bet is he’s been away so long he doesn’t even know most of the guys who were obviously babies at the time when Gene went away And even if he does know them, how friendly was he with them/ loyal towards him?
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Re: Mobsters come back after long sentences
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12/25/17 10:58 AM
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I'd say in respect to Matty Madonna he seems to have been on a short list of independently important people in regards to trafficking. Gene ran heroin with the Ruggiero brothers, Madonna inherited his brother Frank's already functional drug empire and became the narcotics arm of the entire Lucchese Family. He was the sole source to Nicky Barnes who is credited with "introducing" heroin to Harlem.
While I agree that certain longtime prisoned members are key factors to certain families, I'm not sure the comparison to Madonna can be made to Gene Gotti. I don't think he is in line for any type of leadership role in any scenario. I feel the Gotti name is not a well reputed one (for the most part) and the idea that part of the Gambino family would be handed back to Gene after years of wrestling leadership away from the Gotti's isn't something in my estimation that seems logical when they can continue to shuffle leadership through this Zips and let the Sicilian faction control the family through guys like Cefalu and Cali. IMO. What I wanted to say is that since many gangsters have lost years in jail without opening their mouths, I think that the new generations must at least recognize their sacrifice for the "family". Maybe at 72 years old Gene will only want to enjoy any money put aside, and anyway among all the Gottis Gene is the only that deserves respect. I can't fathom what makes you think that. I understand the "concept" but you need to come to terms with the reality of much of what is being discussed. If you were 20-30 right now, what does "recognize the sacrifice for the Family" mean in honesty to you? I'm sure he'll get some handshakes and some empty baseless compliments. In that respect he'll have his ego stroked publicly at bars and restaurants, but as far as fall in line behind him criminally, I think the question in fairness is kind of laughable. He was a lower level guy in a well known crew 40 years ago, the crew is LONG gone, the power has shifted away from his former faction. Almost nobody he knew well is active, I think it's a safe assumption Gene Gotti is a non-factor to anyone he could have ever hurt. He kept his mouth shut the whole time, he poses no threat to anyone as far as information goes. Food for thought on Peter Limone.... The FBI got caught pinning a murder on mobsters, that settlement was over $100M.... I think his chunk of that money, along with his age when released made him a power player. If Gene Gotti or Carmine Persico got out and wanted to sprinkle their $33M share of a $100M+ settlement around to younger mobsters or out on the street, I'm sure they too would be assigned a designation and made to seem upper echelon when it's quite possible Limone could have been a glorified bank in those last years used mostly for the liquidity he offered.
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Re: Mobsters come back after long sentences
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12/25/17 10:12 PM
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Furious, enough with this turned back to the life shit on limone,what evidence that u have on that, a bullshit state bookmaking case that a zillion people are mentioned in? Boss? I guess, what that meant , I never believed in it, and I’m here bud, boots on the ground..respected ya when he came home very, did 33 unfair years and did his time well, so he was respected..then..As time wore on...illl leave it at that...but as far as getting back into life, as u say, he wasn’t sitting directing shake downs and setting policy or anything..sure he sipped espressos with his own personal friends, occasionally a wise guy or two, but show me evidence that it was more than that, tell me incidences ..cuz I’ll tell u other guys did a ton of time too, and they didn’t have the pot of gold at end of their rainbow, so if u think those men were kicking up to boss peter u r sadly romantically mistaken it to be like the movies, didn’t happen
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Re: Mobsters come back after long sentences
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12/26/17 06:51 AM
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Furious, enough with this turned back to the life shit on limone,what evidence that u have on that, a bullshit state bookmaking case that a zillion people are mentioned in? Boss? I guess, what that meant , I never believed in it, and I’m here bud, boots on the ground..respected ya when he came home very, did 33 unfair years and did his time well, so he was respected..then..As time wore on...illl leave it at that...but as far as getting back into life, as u say, he wasn’t sitting directing shake downs and setting policy or anything..sure he sipped espressos with his own personal friends, occasionally a wise guy or two, but show me evidence that it was more than that, tell me incidences ..cuz I’ll tell u other guys did a ton of time too, and they didn’t have the pot of gold at end of their rainbow, so if u think those men were kicking up to boss peter u r sadly romantically mistaken it to be like the movies, didn’t happen http://gangsterreport.com/crazy-like-a-f...ses-away-at-83/Maybe he wasn’t so crazy after all. New England mafia don Peter (The Crazy Horse) Limone died early this week of cancer at 83, having successfully avoided going back to prison after being sprung nearly two decades ago following serving over 30 years on a wrongful murder conviction and allegedly jumping back into Patriarca crime family affairs with both feet. Hailing from the crime family’s Boston faction, Limone reportedly was named consigliere of the Patriarca clan in 2002 and bumped up to the boss’ chair in 2009.
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Re: Mobsters come back after long sentences
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12/27/17 03:23 AM
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Reportedly..in an Internet blog..good evidence..I don’t even know why I bother. U win Yet a year after his legal victory, Mr. Limone was back in court facing charges that he operated a ring that raked in hundreds of thousands of dollars in gambling profits. Stephen Johnson, a retired Massachusetts State Police detective lieutenant, said Mr. Limone was alleged to be the acting boss of the New England Mafia in 2008 when he and another trooper approached him at a charity event with a warrant that allowed them to search him and his Medford home for possible evidence of gambling, loan sharking, and extortion. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bostong...80cKVP/amp.html
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Re: Mobsters come back after long sentences
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12/27/17 09:55 AM
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Your sister was boss that's who...u don't get the dynamic up here ..its over..there is no structure, hasn't been, there certainly wasn't then ..no way in hell the other guys who did a zillion years were going on Peters direction as boss..respect, yes , but as underlining no..u said he got involved in the raclets.and ither than an extremely minor gaming case , it's all talk , nothing else .. Oh, I believe was that cocksucker of your mother, Biggie.
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