We can talk about the big myth of white cops targeting and shooting blacks.

Why?

These threads are just sad. I don't know why the mods allow them. Free speech should be respected but it seems like every few weeks someone starts one of these "hey, why do black people do this or that..." threads and, as expected, it turns to all out war. I don't know how anyone could read these threads and be convinced there's any sort of constructive discussion taking place, or any learning opportunities. They're just platforms for people to vent their racist views.

To dispel the myth.

I've read the entire thread. What statements, in your opinion, were racist? I would like to know, specifically, what was racist in this thread. So that I can learn.

Agree, there is nothing racist about this thread at all. We were discussing opinions and facts.
There are far too many myths perpetrated by the left because they use the black community for votes and profit.
We all seem to agree that the root cause of most issues in the black community are out of wedlock births and certainly not racism or cops looking to kill blacks. A black is about a million times more likely to be killed by another black than they are by a cop or white person.
Go to the worst part of chicago at night and take a stroll through the neighborhood and let me know if you survive. Go to a poor white neighborhood and i guarantee you wont ne threatened. Why the disparity in violence and crime?
Both neighborhoods are equally as poor but only one is violent.. is it because Thomas Jefferson owned slaves??? I think not.
We all need to band together and stop the insanity in these communities.

OK. How? What's the cause of the myth?

I think it's possibly therapeutic by now. It's just as typical and boring at the same time. 99% of time they don't chill out in these neighborhoods anyway yet so "concern" about them.

BF.. I'm not convinced your link re gangs prove your points, maybe I'm just missing the figures you quote about, and, if I am, I apologize...I did read the link about lenders and ithat one report certainly does seem to confirm what you say. I'm still not convinced however that there's some conspiracy to squeeze poor Latinos and black by banks though, it's purely risk...

Your last post, why would anybody want to chill in these neighborhoods..I don't think anyone is expressing concern in the way you mean, it's more frustration about why they dont just stop the self pity and start making real changes... all these "movements" are pissing in the wind-ZERO tolerance with gangs/crime and a community backing is the way forward...oh, then BLM would start a riot, victimhood and racism would be the words screamed and we'd be back to square one...!

Maybe an idea we all just cool this thread...I'm thinking we will just continue to go round and round in circles...good while it lasted and I've been educated a bit as well-I hope others have too!

Yes, it just seems to create discord and fighting.

Fergie
There's no conspiracy in regards to the banks and other institutions just shady biogots that advantage of situations. Hence why I stated that here in my country it's more to it than you realize on mainstream media.

No you misunderstood my last post statement. I meant that the same people that makes these type of threads/ commentart / viewpoints aren't going to actual visit these neighborhoods in their own cities. Just talk down about it as if would motivate these neighborhoods to do better. If you don't interact with those communities than your just " all talk, no walk". Furthermore, people tend to overlook the fact that most of those neighborhoods have been declining population wise due to relocation for better pastures.
Again BLM don't initiate the riots, the delinquents in the crowd is responsible. Back to square one is why I originally was laughing earlier. That's why these type of threads is a failure from launch. Basically, until you walk in that person shoes you will hardly ever understand that person's life.

Have you ever watch Reggie Yates: Outside Man? That episode on a russian nationalist group was so intriguing. They mistaken him as African-American, I was laughing so hard and yet felt so disturbed by how my country's mainstream media display of my ethnicity abroad.

Cool BF, I take your points, and I appreciate you'll definelty be more frustrated than me over finding a solution, just simply through experience if nothing else - it always seems straightforward offering ideas, but I do appreciate it's never just as easy as that. These kind of conversations inevitably always lead to some level of "blame" and that's something that I know isn't constructive. Ideally, I'd love everybody to meet in the middle - what changes would you like to see?

(And I'll watch the Reggie Yates today!)

Fergie
I would say look at each community individually. The scale of problems which contribute the most are in the largest communities. Whenever you read the stats about this amount of Blacks been killed and the Black homicide rate is higher than the national average, think geography. Literally about 65-75% of Black homicides happens in the same large cities discuss so much. In small cities like mine it's not that prolific all the time.

The social programs that have help shouls continue to be supported along with heavy emphasis on conflict resoluton with the youths, financial lessons on money management & economics, & continue to acknowledge & support of black owned businesses in those neighborhoods. There's more to be offered yet as we speak these ideas have already been spoke about and actions taken. Your not going to see an immediate turn around over night. All these problems manifested in decades ( before majority on this forum was born) and it will take the same length or twice the time to recover.

We can all solve this problem by joining together and ensuring that everyone does the right thing in life. The formula for a productive life isnt a complicated one. A few simple, logical decisions and you are off to the races.

So, ultimately, it's about politicians and political parties having some consistency with their policies, then communities might start/continue to strengthen their resolve and making some real positive changes?

Aces, you are right, but I suppose it's a chicken and egg thing...there has to be some belief within communities that there's a chance, which is down to the political machine. Once that really happens, I think you'd might see changes on an individual level...again, schools, policing, infrastructure etc

Doesn't take away from responding to crime though, to me, that's a big issue, I know it can be argued that crime is a result of the situation, but zero tolerance can only be the way. Communities might then scream racism, but make the intentions clear and work with the communities initially

They're a factor alongside trust with the law enforcement and community staying aware of each other.

Is Ace on drugs?

Lol, Aces, forgive me if I'm wrong, but you've had a drink?

I may be gulity of drinking a glass of scotch but i will never drink the kool aid ...

Black Family, the only drug im on is the drug called Reality. Unlike the drug you may be on that leaves you in la la land where out of wedlock births are a good thing.

I think you should put the Scotch & your reality pipe down. Get some fresh air. The weather quite nice today.

Actor Sean Penn put it best talking about these internet bigots. This is "all they have now". It's their thing to do. Used to be listening to the radio, drinking, yelling at their wife. Now it's venting online.

Actor Sean Penn. Yea, the same guy who praises Hugo Chavez, Fidel Castro and El Chapo. Who are you going to quote next, Hilter?

Trump resembles Hitler more than any of the people you named.

lol. Communist. Grandpa, is that you?

Yeah, that's the way things are nowadays. No one talks about differences of opinion, people just call the other guy a "communist".

It's a callback to McCarthyism. The 1950s. Never mind that The Cold War ended 25 years ago. A lot of these Rush Limbaugh listeners still like to throw out the occasional "commie" label.

Is that the same cisgender white male that abused a proud Italian American woman, Madonna Louise Ciccone?

How about "Soros babies"?

But communist is still a perfectly viable term to describe liberals. Also: Centralization of power, dependence on the state, removal of liberties, bigotry towards men (usually white, but occasionally Bill Cosby), megalomania, mob rule, menticide, affirmative action, end of self reliance, political graft, corporate graft, etc.

No, this is McCarthyism:

"Student falsely accused of rape was ‘dragged through hell’ after bungling cops withheld texts from ‘victim’"
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5144496/liam-allan-rape-case-met-police-cleared-croydon-crown-court/

"Today’s False Charges of Racism Echo Soviet Communists"
http://newbostonpost.com/2017/08/22/todays-false-charges-of-racism-echo-soviet-communists/