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Re: Ndrangheta News
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Well i do agree with what m2w said,but we have no idea what is happening today,we know there are close links with 'Ndrangheta to masonic lodges,politicians , but how far that goes , we have no idea. In past 5 years there were busts of 'Ndrangheta/masonic lodges members controlling politicians, picking members for parliament etc
'Ndrangheta is very religious group, the top of 'Ndrangheta called La Santa, La Santa names come from mamma santissima, Mamma santissima literally means "most holy mother" and refers to the Virgin Mary, who is regarded as the protector of the 'Ndrangheta. Also their ranks
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/11/18 11:48 AM
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/11/18 06:37 PM
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You obviously have a fetish for the Sicilians. it's just the truth, sicilian mafia in the 1980s did massacres that nobody would do nowadays in europe, i mean judges, policemen, journalists killed, strong links with giulio andreotti the most powerful italian politician of all time, with masocnic lodges and secret services not only drug trafficking (sicilians produced heroin) and other stuff Ndrangheta did same kind of massacres, not in Calabria but in GERMANY... They also killed politicians and shit, they even helped toto during his crazy rampage. They also had wars which cost 500-1000 lives just like the Sicilian war. They control judges, have links with presidents etc etc,, and that is power. Killing eachother is not power, the real power is when you do your illegal buisnesses, the state, the people and everybody knows about it but they cant do shit, cause you got it all on lock. Ndrangheta controls big cities all over the world. I dont think the Sicilians did that in that extend as Ndrangheta. ALTHOUGH the Sicilians controlled USA and thats like all the other countries combined so i dont know. But i personally think the Ndrangheta are stronger today than the Sicilian was then.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/11/18 11:05 PM
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/12/18 06:07 AM
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Rocco Papalia, considered the 'godfather' of Buccinasco (Milan) and one of the most important leaders of the Calabrian mafia in the north, released last May after 26 years of detention, was stopped by the Carabinieri while driving his wife's car without a license.
The result was a fine of five thousand euros and the communication to the judge supervising the infringement. In addition to not being able to get away from Buccinasco, having to stay at home from 21 to 7, Papalia, convicted of murder, possession of weapons, kidnapping and drug trafficking, also has a driving ban, since it has the license revoked. At this point Papalia could lose probation and end up under house arrest.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/12/18 10:20 AM
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Ndrangheta did same kind of massacres, not in Calabria but in GERMANY... They also killed politicians and shit, they even helped toto during his crazy rampage. They also had wars which cost 500-1000 lives just like the Sicilian war. They control judges, have links with presidents etc etc,, and that is power. Killing eachother is not power, the real power is when you do your illegal buisnesses, the state, the people and everybody knows about it but they cant do shit, cause you got it all on lock.
Ndrangheta controls big cities all over the world. I dont think the Sicilians did that in that extend as Ndrangheta. ALTHOUGH the Sicilians controlled USA and thats like all the other countries combined so i dont know. But i personally think the Ndrangheta are stronger today than the Sicilian was then. it's evident you don't know what happened in the 1980s... sicilian mafia in the 1980s was stronger than today ndrangheta, and i'm not talking only about murders/violence (anyway ndrangheta never killed judges/policemen/jounralists, only a few compared to tons of sicilian mafia) sicilians at that time were strongly liked directly with giulio andreotti the most powerful italian politician ever, the masonic lodges were stronger at that time, same secret service and sicilian mafia was strongly connected with everyone also in the 1980s italy was by far more corrupted than today, there were not only thousands of mafia-related murders (today only a few) but also slaughters done by mafia/secrte services/freemasons etc. concerning abroad sicilians killed several people too, they were the strongest in usa/canada by far ,the stronger in all the northern big italian cities (milan/turin/genoa/bologna) and connections all over europe for heroin trafficking (germany/france/belgium/uk/spain etc.)
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/13/18 05:07 AM
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/15/18 01:57 PM
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http://www.ansa.it/english/news/gen...99356db-ea8e-4694-97de-795619c8a608.htmlReggio Calabria, surgeon at the service of the 'ndrangheta. 19 million euros seized Surgeon's clinic allegedly treated fugitives (ANSA) - Reggio Calabria, March 15 - Carabinieri and finance police in Reggio Calabria on Thursday seized assets worth 19 million euros from a local surgeon, Francesco Cellini. The man is suspected of treating fugitive members of local crime syndicate, the 'Ndrangheta, including alleged members Pasquale and Giovanni Tegano, as the legal representative of the Anphora cooperative that manages the local private clinic nova Salus. The man is a suspect in the anti-mafia Sansone operation dating back to 2016 against the local mafia clans of Condello in Reggio Calabria and Zito-Bertuca, Imerti-Buda in Villa San Giovanni.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/15/18 02:33 PM
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Ndrangheta did same kind of massacres, not in Calabria but in GERMANY... They also killed politicians and shit, they even helped toto during his crazy rampage. They also had wars which cost 500-1000 lives just like the Sicilian war. They control judges, have links with presidents etc etc,, and that is power. Killing eachother is not power, the real power is when you do your illegal buisnesses, the state, the people and everybody knows about it but they cant do shit, cause you got it all on lock.
Ndrangheta controls big cities all over the world. I dont think the Sicilians did that in that extend as Ndrangheta. ALTHOUGH the Sicilians controlled USA and thats like all the other countries combined so i dont know. But i personally think the Ndrangheta are stronger today than the Sicilian was then. it's evident you don't know what happened in the 1980s... sicilian mafia in the 1980s was stronger than today ndrangheta, and i'm not talking only about murders/violence (anyway ndrangheta never killed judges/policemen/jounralists, only a few compared to tons of sicilian mafia) sicilians at that time were strongly liked directly with giulio andreotti the most powerful italian politician ever, the masonic lodges were stronger at that time, same secret service and sicilian mafia was strongly connected with everyone also in the 1980s italy was by far more corrupted than today, there were not only thousands of mafia-related murders (today only a few) but also slaughters done by mafia/secrte services/freemasons etc. concerning abroad sicilians killed several people too, they were the strongest in usa/canada by far ,the stronger in all the northern big italian cities (milan/turin/genoa/bologna) and connections all over europe for heroin trafficking (germany/france/belgium/uk/spain etc.) Couldn't agree more M2W, you took the words out of my mouth. Saved me a lot of typing.. I doubt there ever will be another organization in Europe, that had the kind of power, reach and wealth the Sicilian CN had in the 80's and early 90's..
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/15/18 03:02 PM
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Pretty amazing when you take into consideration the religious aspect of the group. So because of that do we put then as probably the most powerful crime group of all time? or do they still sit 2nd behind the cartels? sicilian mafia in the 1980s was stronger than today ndrangheta, so not the most powerful of all time, it was probably cosa nostra in the 1980s, and american cosa nostra in the 1960s I find it is difficult to compare. Each of them were a power house in their own era. Now it looks like it is the Ndrangheta in this era. You must also consider the following facts, the Ndrangheta never received as much public recognition( movies,books ...etc) as did the Sicilian Mafia and the LCN. No other mafia expanded to as many countries globally as much as the Ndrangheta did and are still continuing to expand today.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/15/18 03:16 PM
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Well i do agree with what m2w said,but we have no idea what is happening today,we know there are close links with 'Ndrangheta to masonic lodges,politicians , but how far that goes , we have no idea. In past 5 years there were busts of 'Ndrangheta/masonic lodges members controlling politicians, picking members for parliament etc
'Ndrangheta is very religious group, the top of 'Ndrangheta called La Santa, La Santa names come from mamma santissima, Mamma santissima literally means "most holy mother" and refers to the Virgin Mary, who is regarded as the protector of the 'Ndrangheta. Also their ranks I agree for the most part of your characterization of the Ndrangheta using religious symbols and names to describe their family structure; but I have a small objection as to them being a very religious group. They kill, lame, intimidate, sell drugs, prey on people and other. This is not what Catholicism teaches. I'm assuming that is not what you meant.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/15/18 04:08 PM
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Well i do agree with what m2w said,but we have no idea what is happening today,we know there are close links with 'Ndrangheta to masonic lodges,politicians , but how far that goes , we have no idea. In past 5 years there were busts of 'Ndrangheta/masonic lodges members controlling politicians, picking members for parliament etc
'Ndrangheta is very religious group, the top of 'Ndrangheta called La Santa, La Santa names come from mamma santissima, Mamma santissima literally means "most holy mother" and refers to the Virgin Mary, who is regarded as the protector of the 'Ndrangheta. Also their ranks I agree for the most part of your characterization of the Ndrangheta using religious symbols and names to describe their family structure; but I have a small objection as to them being a very religious group. They kill, lame, intimidate, sell drugs, prey on people and other. This is not what Catholicism teaches. I'm assuming that is not what you meant. This is not something i made up just now,that is what they think. One of their most important meetings is next to holy statue. I agree that it makes no sense they being religious group and doing stuff that they do.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/16/18 05:12 AM
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I find it is difficult to compare. Each of them were a power house in their own era. Now it looks like it is the Ndrangheta in this era.
You must also consider the following facts, the Ndrangheta never received as much public recognition( movies,books ...etc) as did the Sicilian Mafia and the LCN. No other mafia expanded to as many countries globally as much as the Ndrangheta did and are still continuing to expand today. there is not so much to compare, sicilian mafia in the 1980s was by far stronger The money Ndrangheta make today is much more than the Sicilian mafia did. More money equals more power so you do the math.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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The money Ndrangheta make today is much more than the Sicilian mafia did. More money equals more power so you do the math. according to who? sicilian mafia made more money at that time, it produced heroin in italy and involved in tons of other business, invested money even in vatican banks etc. The cocaine trade is worth more than the Heroin trade was back then. And the Ndrangheta is the one of the biggest player in that game, if not the biggest. Look at the bust back then with the heroin trade with sicilians it was 50 kg 100kg. Today with Ndrangheta you see 1 ton 5 tons 8 tons of cocaine shipments. The Calabrians has penetrated the northern Italy in a way which the Sicilians did not.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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The cocaine trade is worth more than the Heroin trade was back then. And the Ndrangheta is the one of the biggest player in that game, if not the biggest. Look at the bust back then with the heroin trade with sicilians it was 50 kg 100kg. Today with Ndrangheta you see 1 ton 5 tons 8 tons of cocaine shipments.
The Calabrians has penetrated the northern Italy in a way which the Sicilians did not. sicilian mafia earned more because produced in italy withouth intermediators etc. (some sicilian labs produced 5/6 tons for year and sicily was full of labs) ndrangheta import it from colombia and also behind big shipments of tons there are usually several different criminal groups, not only one sicilians were the strongest in northern italy too at that time, anyway they were huge in the united states and connections all over western europe north italy is nothing compared to the states
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