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Re: Ndrangheta News
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Credits to dwalin for posting this. Big news,finally real brains behind mafia doing jali time.
'Ndrangheta boss (and powerful freemason), the lawyer Giorgio De Stefano was sentenced to 20 years in a trial following investigations against a sort of secret masonic lodge infiltrating politics and economy, with the senator Antonio Caridi considered their main "front man" in the state institutions. This trial regards the defendants who chose the "short trial" ("rito abbreviato") and got the proceedings against them concluded sooner; 34 out of 38 defendants got convicted. A number of other defendants chose a "normal" trial, including the alleged leader of the organization, the lawyer and ex-parliament member, Paolo Romeo (already with a criminal record for mafia association).
Giorgio De Stefano was basically untouchable since the 80s: after the 'ndrangheta war in the 80s almost every boss directly involved in it got a life sentence in the "operation Olimpia" trial, while he got 6 years only, imo it was due to his masonic and political connections. I am honestly surprised he received so many years now. Hopefully it won't get overturned on appeal or in supreme court.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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Credits to dwalin for posting this. Big news,finally real brains behind mafia doing jali time.
'Ndrangheta boss (and powerful freemason), the lawyer Giorgio De Stefano was sentenced to 20 years in a trial following investigations against a sort of secret masonic lodge infiltrating politics and economy, with the senator Antonio Caridi considered their main "front man" in the state institutions. This trial regards the defendants who chose the "short trial" ("rito abbreviato") and got the proceedings against them concluded sooner; 34 out of 38 defendants got convicted. A number of other defendants chose a "normal" trial, including the alleged leader of the organization, the lawyer and ex-parliament member, Paolo Romeo (already with a criminal record for mafia association).
Giorgio De Stefano was basically untouchable since the 80s: after the 'ndrangheta war in the 80s almost every boss directly involved in it got a life sentence in the "operation Olimpia" trial, while he got 6 years only, imo it was due to his masonic and political connections. I am honestly surprised he received so many years now. Hopefully it won't get overturned on appeal or in supreme court. This guy sounds interessing. Like a James Bond type of villain hehe. Is this a sign of Ndrangheta losing power?
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/05/18 08:55 AM
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This guy sounds interessing. Like a James Bond type of villain hehe. Is this a sign of Ndrangheta losing power?
Not at all, same thing happened 2 years ago,when police uncovered secret 'Ndrangheta cupola that picked men for parliament. The secret 'Ndrangheta 'cupola', members of the so called 'Santa', ruled the elections of several politicians at provincial, regional and national level; among them Giuseppe Scopelliti, ex mayor of Reggio Calabria, Umberto Pirilli, member of the European parlament and Felice Romeo (members of the Alvaro crime family) dirigent of regional forestals; they run the national and European funds destined to Calabria, they had links with Cosa Nostra, Camorra and Sacra Corona. Among the politicians who had links with the 'cupola' also Giovanni Alemanno, ex mayor of Rome, and Maurizio Gasparri, vice-president of Senate. Its just that stuff like this are very rare,most of these people are untouchable. They are real brains behind the mafia
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/05/18 09:10 AM
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This guy sounds interessing. Like a James Bond type of villain hehe. Is this a sign of Ndrangheta losing power?
Not at all, same thing happened 2 years ago,when police uncovered secret 'Ndrangheta cupola that picked men for parliament. The secret 'Ndrangheta 'cupola', members of the so called 'Santa', ruled the elections of several politicians at provincial, regional and national level; among them Giuseppe Scopelliti, ex mayor of Reggio Calabria, Umberto Pirilli, member of the European parlament and Felice Romeo (members of the Alvaro crime family) dirigent of regional forestals; they run the national and European funds destined to Calabria, they had links with Cosa Nostra, Camorra and Sacra Corona. Among the politicians who had links with the 'cupola' also Giovanni Alemanno, ex mayor of Rome, and Maurizio Gasparri, vice-president of Senate. Its just that stuff like this are very rare,most of these people are untouchable. They are real brains behind the mafia Do the Ndrangheta or the Italian mafia whatsoever have the same political influence in Italy like the Russian mafia has in Russia? I dont know how it is but i think the Russians has more power of the state or am i wrong? I know in Kosovo and Albania the mafia has complete control of the state, there the Prime ministers and presidents ARE the mafia, they are involved in drugs and shit but most of allt extortion and stealing the Funds they recieve.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/05/18 09:43 AM
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They definitely seem hot right now... Cabrini, where are you from? Im wondering cause i wanna know if Ndrangheta is known in the US as its known here in Europe. This guy sounds interessing. Like a James Bond type of villain hehe. Is this a sign of Ndrangheta losing power?
Don Lucchesi from Godfather 3 also comes to mind.. Yeah him to
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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Do the Ndrangheta or the Italian mafia whatsoever have the same political influence in Italy like the Russian mafia has in Russia? I dont know how it is but i think the Russians has more power of the state or am i wrong? I know in Kosovo and Albania the mafia has complete control of the state, there the Prime ministers and presidents ARE the mafia, they are involved in drugs and shit but most of allt extortion and stealing the Funds they recieve.
I agree for what you said for Kosovo and Albania,but its pretty much same here in Serbia and whole balkans,everyone stealing funds and some extortion here and there. I would say yes,Italian mafia in Italy is pretty much same like Russian Mafia in Russia. You have same thing with Sicilian Mafia , freemasonry secret lodges controlling politicians etc. Take a look at Matteo Messina Denaro,its obvious that he has protection of masonic lodges,secret services etc. His father started as armed gurad for D'Ali family , Antonio D'Alì Sr. was founder of Banco Sicula biggest private bank in Sicily, he was also memeber of P2. His son Antonio D'Alì jr. became a senator for Silvio Berlusconi's Forza Italia party in 1996, and in April 2001 under-secretary at the Ministry of the Interior, the institution responsible for fighting organized crime,his cousin Giacomo D’Alì is a counsellor of the Banca Commerciale Italiana in Milan. P2 is most famous of these masonic lodges , some of members were: president of Vatican Bank,Chairman of Banco Ambrosiano, Leaders of all 3 italian secret services , son of last king of italy , generals etc. Silvio Berlusconi too. Some say there are P3 and P4 today.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/05/18 11:11 AM
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This guy sounds interessing. Like a James Bond type of villain hehe. Is this a sign of Ndrangheta losing power?
Don Lucchesi from Godfather 3 also comes to mind.. Imo Lucchesi is more similar to Licio Gelli and other freemasons "above" the underworld. Giorgio De Stefano, even though he is a freemason, a lawyer and ex-politician, is more directly involved, he is a 'ndrangheta boss in the full sense of the word, he is or was the boss of the De Stefano 'ndrina: became boss after his cousin Paolo was whacked in 1985. It's said he participated in all the 'ndrangheta meetings related to the war, ordered murders, didn't want to make peace unless Paolo's killers were killed etc. During the war, he was on the run like the other bosses. He is a hard-core gangster and a white-collar guy at the same time, I would say. By the way, in the Italian documentary series "Blu notte" ("Blue night") with Carlo Lucarelli, in the episode about the history of the 'ndrangheta, it was said that, when Giorgio De Stefano was active in politics, during the local elections in Reggio Calabria he got so many votes that he overcame his own political party leader and was forced to ask people not to vote for him any more....Quite an insane but funny situation, if you ask me On the other hand, it's sad so many people were willing to vote for him...
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/05/18 03:23 PM
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Do the Ndrangheta or the Italian mafia whatsoever have the same political influence in Italy like the Russian mafia has in Russia? I dont know how it is but i think the Russians has more power of the state or am i wrong? I know in Kosovo and Albania the mafia has complete control of the state, there the Prime ministers and presidents ARE the mafia, they are involved in drugs and shit but most of allt extortion and stealing the Funds they recieve. i tihink italian mafia in italy is more entrenched with politics than even russia, but they are different things in russia putin is a sort of dictatorship, he wouldn't let the russian mafia controls everythings like in italy, the men realy powerful in russia are only the oligarcs linked to putin in italy is more complex, the most powerful are members of masonic lodges, who can be often both politicians, mafia members and businessman at the same time
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/10/18 07:12 AM
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Two arrests in Milan as part of the fight against the 'Ndrangheta in Lombardy: 58-year-old Francesco Cicino and 37-year-old Vincenzo Montemurro, former right-hand man of the boss Carmelo Novella, killed in 2008. They are accused of attempted extortion and being responsible for the beating last May in Legnano of Edoardo Novella, son of the boss, which was appropriate for 250 thousand euro. The arrests, carried out by the Dia di Milano, follow the operations "Linfa" and "Kerina 2" , which, in recent months, had led to a total arrest of 15 people,mainly of Calabrian origins, investigated by association aimed at trafficking and possession of drugs .
The investigations had previously led to the total seizure of over 150 kilos of drugs. The process started in February. On January 27, Edoardo Novella, the son of Carmelo, had already been arrested. His father, ruler of the structure of 'ndrangheta called "Lombardia", was killed in an ambush on July 14, 2008 in San Vittore Olona, ​​in Milan. Edoardo Novella played a prominent role in the organization. The assault on the son of the boss took place on the morning of 13 May 2017.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/10/18 07:31 AM
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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The Ndrangheta are more like the Cartels in Mexico than a traditional Mafia group
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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03/10/18 07:54 AM
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The Ndrangheta are more like the Cartels in Mexico than a traditional Mafia group No, they are much more organized and they are in everything,from small crimes to big crimes like EU Funds,waste disposal etc. They are ivy league of organized crime.
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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I get all that, I meant with those underground bunkers and tunnels and hideouts in the middle of the forest
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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The Ndrangheta are more like the Cartels in Mexico than a traditional Mafia group No, they are much more organized and they are in everything,from small crimes to big crimes like EU Funds,waste disposal etc. They are ivy league of organized crime. They are also a religious group, like a sect.
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Pretty amazing when you take into consideration the religious aspect of the group. So because of that do we put then as probably the most powerful crime group of all time? or do they still sit 2nd behind the cartels?
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Re: Ndrangheta News
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Pretty amazing when you take into consideration the religious aspect of the group. So because of that do we put then as probably the most powerful crime group of all time? or do they still sit 2nd behind the cartels? sicilian mafia in the 1980s was stronger than today ndrangheta, so not the most powerful of all time, it was probably cosa nostra in the 1980s, and american cosa nostra in the 1960s You obviously have a fetish for the Sicilians.
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