In the 2004 new jersy organized crime report it.says at the time half of the 50 members of philly family were jailed and another 15 were inactive so there were only 10 active guys? That seems more like a small crew not a family. What about now? How many active members do you estimate? and to what extent do they still control the local rackets? Thanks.

check out Mukremin's charts. he's pretty on top of things...

Philly has 7 capo's
1. North Jersey/licata
2.south Jersey/???
3. philadelphia/ Martin Angelina
4. Philadelphia/gaeton lucibello
5. Philadelphia/ Mike Lance
6. Philadelphia/ George Borgesi
7. Philadelphia/ Phillip narducci (capo in scarfo era)
These are the capo's that's publicly known

My guess probaly 25 made guys in philly 10 in new jersey active? There was only like 4 capo when scarfo was at his peak in 1985. There was only 2 in philly then 1 in north jersey and that guy santo idone who had 1 soldier. Id bet theres probaly 3 4 tops capos. To many chiefs not anuff indians.

Lucibello isn't a captain anymore and I'm guessing Angelina isn't either.

Marty got knocked down after the assault charge on the shore. Sonny has taken over the south jersey borgata.

is there any philly guys in trenton or camden not really the inner city parts cause ive seen there like 3rd world countrys but the burbs. or even cherry hill. but id assume john gambino and his cousins probaly had that on lock down since they got out of prison. actually just looking on a map of the area seems like camden nj is cherry hill or there side by side. no wonder guys were pissed at bruno for letting the gambinos operate there its like a few miles from philly

John gambino died.

oh ya. last summer. he was meeting with the philly guys in 2011.

Wow, I didn't know Angelina got kicked down, and what has Sonny done to be in charge of South Philly? Is he acting?

South Jersey

So who tooked over Martin Angelina crew?

I found a blackhand forum philly chart before I was shelved.

1. Boss: Joseph "Skinny Joey" Merlino/53
-Ruling Panel: Steven "Handsome Steve" Mazzone/51, John "Johnny Chang" Ciancaglini/59 and Phillip Narducci/53
2. UnderBoss: ?????
3. Consiglieri: Joseph "Uncle Joe" Ligambi/76


Capos:
1. Martin "Marty" Angelina/53 – South Philly
2. George “Georgie Boy” Borgesi/52 – South Philly, Delaware County and South Jersey
3. Michael "Mikey Lance" Lancellotti/52 – South Philly and AC
4. Joseph "Scoops" Licata/74 – North Jersey
5. Anthony “Ant” Staino/58 (IP/2/17/2020) – South Jersey and South Philly


Soldiers:

6)Vincent "Beepsie" Centorino/85
7)Joseph “Chickie” Ciancaglini Sr/81
8)Martin "Marty Crutch" Curro/60
9)Frank DiPasquale
10)Eric Esposito/45
11)Louis "Big Lou" Fazzini/48
12Vincent "Big Vince" Filipelli/63
13Robert “The Cook” Gentile/77
14Dominic Grande/37
15Joseph Grande/55
16Francis "Faffy" Iannarella/68
17Charles "Charlie White" Iannece/80
18Vincent "Vince" Iannece/48
19Albert “Ally Lance/Cousin Al” Lancelotti
20Gaeton “Gate/The Big Guy” Lucibello/62
21Salvatore "Sonny" Mazzone/42
22Nicholas "Nicky Whip" Milano/54
23Frank “Windows” Narducci Jr/62
24Nicholas "Nicky O" Oliveri/63
25Anthony "Tony Pung" Pungitore Jr/61
26Joseph "Joey Pung" Pungitore/59
27Dominic Rugnetta/90
28Salvatore "Tory" Scafidi/54
29Joseph “Joey Electric” Servidio/56
30Ralph "Junior" Staino/83
31Luigi “Gino” Tripodi/76
32Shawn Vetere/47


Likely Members:
33Joseph Baldino/35
34Joseph “Bongs” Bongiovanni/69
35Anthony Borgesi/42
36Philip “Philly” Ligambi/66
37Vito Malgeri


Imprisoned Members:
Damion “Dame” Canalichio/45 (IP/12/21/2021)
Frank Martines/61 (IP/L)
Joseph "Mousie" Massimino/65 (IP/1/13/2025)
Anthony “Tony Nics” Nicodemo/43 (IP)
Vincent “Al Pajamas” Pagano/86 (IP/9/28/2063)
Nicodemo "Little Nicky" Scarfo/86 (IP/1/05/2033)
Salvatore “Shotsie” Sparacio/94 (IP/5/4/2020)
John Stanfa/74 (IP/L)


Members Who Have Died Since 1998:
Joseph “Gennaro Boccia” Costello (2007)
Joseph “Joe Crutch” Curro (2004)
Dominick "Tommy Adams" DiNorscio (1999)
Raymond “Fredo” Esposito (1999)
Anthony “Tony Meats” Ferrante (2001)
Gerardo “Jerry” Fusella (2007)
Frank Gambino (2012)
Robert Guarente (2004)
Frank "Snuffy" Iannarella
Santo “Big Santo” Idone (2005)
Alphonse "Funzie" Marconi (2006)
Guerino "Gino" Marconi (2009)
Raymond "Long John" Martirano (2002) (Killed)
Salvatore "Chucky" Merlino (2012)
Ralph “Blackie” Napoli (2003)
Anthony “Tony Buck” Piccolo (2004)
Anthony "Martino/Blonde Babe" Pungitore Sr. (2012)
Orlando Puppo (2000)
Michael “Mickey the Walker" Ricciardi (2001)
Harry “The Hunchback” Riccobene (2000)
Santo Romeo (1999)
Antonio “Nino” Sciglitano (2005)
Ronald “Ronnie” Turchi Sr (1999) (Killed)
Michael "Mikey Pen Knife" Virgilio (2007)

so 42 made men on the streets and 8 in prison.

That's very old

Wow so the family is stronger today than it.was under Scarfo
Not many can say that?

The problem is you think how many guys on the streets are active? In 2004 there were 15 inactive members what about now?

WOW that's unbelievable in this day and age the family that has a boss that is "PUBLIC ENEMY #1"

His LCN family was able to grow by about 100%

Also, Skinny had not sure if he still has a crew in FL

Absolutly not. After scarfo philly family reduced to a street gang;now ligambi rebuilted the family but lost most of his power,for example now doesn't had numbers to impose a street tax like in the glorious days.

It’s nothing like it was 79-90 the guys that were left that knew what was what were in the joint or dead . Chuckie was feeding Skinny info to get money but still with Stanfa not knowing 1/3 of what was going on in the tristate area ....and you all know the rest !

But guys left on street were bottom of the barrel....

I was responding to a post that said under Scarfo there were 4 crews and now there are 7
And in that 7 they didn't list Florida at all.

From what I read Skinny had a crew in Fl

As for quality I think across the board quality will.never be close to what it was.

Whether in NYC, Detroit or Philly.

If you read anything that Sonny Girard wrote he breaks that down better than anyone I have seen.

Past generations that came.from Sicily living conditions were so ruff that jail wasn't too far off.

Growing up in that environment produces a certain tuffness you become conditioned to be a certain way.
In the Italian ghetto's growing up was very tuff.
With few options to get out of that environment.

LCN back then for alot of guys in the Italian ghetto was the least path of resistance.

Today's generation for the most part are Americanized SPOILED.

In the ghetto you grew up fighting everyday now that environment does not exist.

For Italians anyway.

Bensonhurst brooklyn.in the 80's and 90's it was like the wild west very often bodies were left in the street for everyone to see, if you get out of line that could happen to you.
Or a guy would disappear and that was that.

Nowadays for the most part in America that's just not how it is.

The old guard is gone forever guys like Sonny Franzese etc.
You may get a guy here and there that is old school but that is more the exception than the norm.
In my opinion.

Bhurst are you saying that Bensonhurst/bath beach was an Italian ghetto? Thanks

Yes

Really, a ghetto? I certainly believe that it was very dangerous and that it was, in those days, probably the neighborhood with the most mob activity of the entire US but one of the most important criteria for a neighborhood to be called a ghetto is median income, it has to be very low. Most of Bensonhurst, from what I can gather was middle class. I'm not trying to lecture you or anything, because I never lived there, I am just wondering why you would call it a ghetto because I never heard anyone call it that before..

It wasnt. It was a good neighbourhood, dont know what he is talking about.

It was definitely a rough, blue collar, working class neighborhood back in the day especially.

Ghetto meaning all.one ethnic group.

Today the last remaining Italian ghetto that I know of in NYC is Staten Island.

My time growing bensonhurst was a middle class neighborhood.

We didn't endure those harsh poor conditions more of the wild west because the wisefuys and social clubs were everywhere and they just weren't afraid to kill you they chose to.

Previous generations were poorer and Italians were no welcomed with open arms when the masses immigrated from Sicily.
Also, about thatbtine was the great depression the whole country had it tuff.

Also WW-2 more Italians serves in the military then any other nationality.

The guys that serves in the war those guys were tuff.

I mean war was different back then.

Look at Normandy Beach those guys ran into the bullets and bombs.

I was referring to two different time frames in my post.

In the 90's when I am growing up the older men in the neighborhood the previous generation was ww-2 era .

They had it really tuff, the generation before me.

I know four Philly guys got pinched weds. Morning!!! A made guy in phillybwas wearing a wire..... not it news yet or papers or google.. why's that??

Says who? How do you "know" thay happened? I was with 2 of those guys yesterday... Gabbing about everything.... Seems weird that didnt come up.

Because I very dear friend of mine was one of them.. it's a guy who owns a rest in phillybweari g a wire

Pm me

Who is the made guy that wore a wire

Don't know his name... but there are 3 Jersey guys in FDC Philly right now and I don't know the 4th guy

Do you at least have 1 name?

The bigfella pm me

[quote=Stripes]The bigfella pm me[/quote say his name please.. pm me commeeeon man.. please .. let it out if u know.. is this the mob wives show.. Really..

Sorry no can do at this time.. it's been since weds. Morning and nothing in news or papers or Google on the pinch

Bit if they got pinched that makes it public news but if you don't even know the names then how do you know it happened at all?

But it's not in the news or papers that's why I'm not mentioning there names at this time.. most likely more to come

Maybe they didn't get arrested they were just taken in and let go

Nope there in custody 100%

Where are the local guys from Philly isn't there a handful on here?

Dave schratwieser is reporting the made guy is Salvatore piccolo I a meth bust, I don't know is he was the made guy that wore a wire or not

stripes with the good call. sounds like they were selling pounds of meth to a wired up agent probaly on video to. hes fucked. im guessing hes related to scarfos uncles the piccolos. merlino must have okayed him. let bygones be bygones.

Good call stripes, sorry for doubting you

No worries!! I didn't want to say any names ad I'm close to all four guys pinched

take it the guys young. so people smoke meth down in philly nowadays. i no half the shity ecstacy in pill form is just meth and not mdma. new england we still like to smoke the crack rock in a stem and shoot herion thats not really herion its fentanyl that kills 1 out of 2 fiends. now every city an town in new england are sueing the makers of percocet and oxycottin, you really think there gonna settle or pay out yaeh rite. if you tried to sell meth in massachusetts the dea and every informant would have you busted in 2 days. i remember in the old scarfo books it said philly was like the meth/crank capitol of the usa probaly before the crack era in philly.

Schratwieser just tweeted . Fbi had a made guy as a informant since 2015

The Feds had a rat for almost 4 years and a made guy to boot and they have a guy busted for selling Mexican meth ! Something not right here.

Why would this be released on a fucking tiny bust !

If they had a made guy in philly wearing a wire for the last few years id expect the nyc d.a. to drop the case against merlino and philly probaly just indict all them guys down there. Will see.

https://www.app.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/2018/03/19/la-cosa-nostra-drug-arrests/438618002/

Meth biz must be a weird scary place. Coke every body does it or tried it on a weekend or new years at partys cant really imagine what a regular meth bender looks like. All i can picture is breaking bad. Top 5 show of all time dont fuck with uncle jack.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.app.com/story/news/crime/jersey-mayhem/2018/03/19/la-cosa-nostra-drug-arrests/43861800

Isnt Servidio a North Jersey guy? Upper Township is long way from Newark. Maybe he heard how good manco's & manco's pizza is?

Yes he is North but was living down there

Thank you for all the credible info. Much appreciated.

Did a quick skin threw the comllaint its loading with lcn stuff. Theres more shit coming for them. Guess cs 1 is a made member in a different crew then the guy joe s. This guy poccolo is now where in tue indictment. Weird.....

Lot of crazy talk..lot of conflicting talk to, they are told.not to do anything illegal, but then must get approval to do anything illegal, which is true, which isnt..my guess is the govt wants someone else, servidio,.to flip..from what i figure, the wired up rat isnt old guard, but that doesnt mean he didnt have access
.

He’s also Wayne grandes former brother in law too

In the complaint Joey Electric refers to his capo as ‘the kid’. I can’t think of any capos that are on the younger side.

Isnt Joe Servidio part of Scoops Licata crew?

So is fazzini the new capo? And why the article said nothing about Salvatore piccolo?

gotta be nicodemo?

say the name mayonnaise face. im sure one of are posters will no. the fuck is 3rd degree murder. probaly narrows it down.

Ya why not just say it? Mayoface such a prick

It’s gotta be Nicodemo right? He plead guilty to 3rd degree murder

lil more reading he started copoperating after a staged armed robbery of a pawn shop in nj. and im guessing 3rd degree murder is like a manslaughter. this guys has a huge record. playing the guessing game doesnt didnt that guy fazzani punch someone to death? do a shitload of time.

Did u read the indictment? How the fuck could it be Nicodemo? You think they released him from jail to sell pills? Seems plausible right...Maynm

Maybe no one would notice

Based on the priors it would be Fazzini

Ha no. Just saw mayoface say 3rd degree murder and know Nicodemo copped to that.

got a furlough on the weekend go down the shore and sell some fake 30tys to the kids. lol. no one noticed.

more i read just sounds like the guy joey electric just dont give a fuck and like to sell drugs and make money. should have joined the bikers.

That's how this shit starts
Small indictment

1-2 guys flip

1-2 guys lead to 1-2 more

Before you know it.....

interesting. but to let the operation go on for almost 2 yrs when dudes are flooding that jersey turnpike with any thing thing could press in to a blue 30. how many people died off the fentanyl/meth pills. i used to dabble in the opiates for a short decade but it was when the docs up here was flooding the street. not vinny and his pill press. these dudes are done. lets see if joey electric stands tall. all these towns are pretty far away from south philly after looking on my google map. george might have his final book to write.

I found this topic of a ghetto kinda funny. Because it came up in Sammys book. I think he was being debriefed or something and he described Bensenhurst as a ghetto. I think the response was something like, but you grew up middle class, in a decent neighborhood. Sammys respose always intrigued me..... He said the older guys taught you how to break the law, steal, be a criminal and if,that's not a ghetto, what is? ( I'm paraphrasing, but that was the gist of it..)

Side note.... Had anyone heard of any of this type of activity from these guys? First Im Hearing about either these guys, or this big drug operation. Is this Mexican dope you guys think? Or is it an LCN based connection? Like the Gambinos?

I thought meth/speed was big in Philly?

Never mind, pmac beat me to it....

Yes Joe Electric is under Licata,the two associates Michael Gallicchio, 48, and Carl Chianese, 79 aren't listed here.

Philly Mob 1982



Philly Mob 2016



LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE

its not nicodemo, jesus guys been down almost 6 years, everyone wants to make him a rat..its not fazzini either..and i dont see who it is on any of the charts, my eyesight aint great, but i dont think i see him on this chart

If this is the "big philly bust" everyone was talking about then at least a capo should have been busted right?

feds start with this, bigfella, and then they see what happens from there..from the way this complaint reads..it aint ending here

I can't wait to see what becomes of Philly after some time passes with guys like Tony Nicodemo, Frankie Baldino, Dame Canalichio, Billy DePena, Nick Caltabiano, Michael Angelina.... Been wondering who Chris Nicodemo is to Tony would love to see this group of guys really do some good in Philly

This is a rock solid case, all 3 will do heavy time. They have the capo on tape approving drug deals, he is fucked as well.
Is there 2 informants? The capo seems to live in or near atlantic city.
The first ( main informant) engaged in some sort of “ staged armed robbery” of a pawn shop. Do any made guys in philly own a pawn shop?

I would think Lou Fazzini is Capo he was groomed and is Dom DiNorscio the rat?

not sure fazzini status, but he aint the capo in this paperwork...there are 2 informants spoken about in this criminal indictment, as well as the undercovers..there are a couple of more that flipped

Dom is at least 5-10 years younger than fazzini. Dom is jackies son.

Wasn’t dom dinorscio convicted of wacking little Craig haddock

Dom is at least 5-10 years younger than fazzini. Dom is jackies son. Thats not correct. Fazinni was groomed by Nicky O..

i think louie may be alluding to the conviction as dom being the potential cooperating source..that is not the case though

I didnt say dom was involved. I may be off on Doms age though. He may be closer in age to lou but he didnt groom him.
We talkin bout the same guy ( tommy )???

sorry belmont, what i meant is lou alluded to doms conviction in the killing, as maybe it potentially being him, maybe he didnt mean that either, i just wanted to clarify to the board it isnt him. and yes we are on the same guy

All good biggie. I just dont want some guy mistakingly being labled a rat.
I didnt know dom was indicted for murder? When was this?

long time ago, over 20 years. and yes, thats why i was saying it aint dom, in case someone had the wrong impression..

I know Lou did, but Dom killed someone? What exactly happened and how much time did he get? Was it a state bid?

This Angie’s List review of Joey Electric’s legitimate Contracting company made me laugh:

https://www.angieslist.com/companylist/us/nj/nutley/bergen-essex-contractors-reviews-3750927.htm

Haha. I can only imagine. The guy probably called raising hell having no idea who he was talking to. You ain’t talking to the assistant manager at Best Buy bud

the angies review hahah. sopranos 101. yae sounds like they have one of the capos placing orders for pills or atleast talking openingly anuff for some type of trouble. but it was only 300 hundred pills and there fake maybe they dont want to take that case. idk. joe s reads like a sleeper cell hitman. guy owns a handyman biz sells drugs then drives into philly does hits. him telling the fed he made his bones at 19 then the part were he drove to philly with that old guy to whack some other drug guy talking shit is probaly gonna get him life. the feds had to save his life someway withput compramising the opreation

im guessing the pawn shop robbery was in north jersey since the newark office thought it wasnt a stagged robbery and thought cs-1 was lying. he seems to spend all his time in jersey.

the kid capo has to be the guy wayne grande who went with merlino to the genovese xmis party in the bronx. hes what like 36 yr old a kid in mob circles you think.

Hahahahhahaha im fucking dying over here. I have a contracting biz myself and find that fucking hysterical. I doubt Fazzini would be the informant but as stated he has a prior for murder or manslaughter right?

Yeah Joey Electric’s Contracting company’s Angie’s List review had me dying!! They were probably some moron Middle America or even worse Southerner yuppies relocating here to North Jersey to commute into the city....

Yes Fazzini stabbed a guy in Union City back in 1993 I wanna say...

Honestly the pill thing was pretty sad. 10 dollars a unit for homemade ones? I had a friend I did time w who was huge into bitcoin and hacking....he scored big and bought litterally thousands of the fake 30s from China. They were fentanyl but looked very real and apparently got people very high but had a shorter half life. He was pushing them everywhere since he had tons and he sent a friend of mine like 2k of em. You couldnt really get them off as 30s on a large scale but if you would just level with people and tel them what they were you could get rid of them for like 6-8 each. I coulda had them for like 2-4 each. Anyway my friend ended up eating them himself and eventually died. He died with 100k worth of bitcoin on a zip drive when bitcoin was like @ 900 a unit. Guy would be a millionaire now easily. Anyway that shit is bad news. Just suprises me they sold the fakes for soo much and such poor quality

Louis fazzini was released from prison in 2015

[quote=DanteMoltisanti]Yes Fazzini stabbed a guy in Union City back in 1993 I wanna say...[/quote

I don’t think he was convicted of 3rd degree murder though ,
Wasn’t it fazzini and Nicky O ( I forget his name ) who stabbed a guy , but wasn’t his making invalidated because of George freoslone , the guy lived from the stabbing

got to find that zip drive , vegas lol...and yes, this pill epidemic is fuckin terrible

You are talking about stev lenehan. Those 3 gave a guy a beating in Union.
Fazzini killed a kid in a fight. He actually felt very bad about it. He didnt wear it like a badge of honor. It actually fucked him up for a while. Fresolone had nothing to do with fazinni. Nicky O, to an extent.

I just read that angies list review and im still on the floor laughing.

Hilarious

Yeah you guys have the same sense of humor as me. When I read it I was laughing for almost twenty mins, had to share....

Im just trying to picture the look mr and mrs “ i love diversity and everyone should get a trophy” had on their faces when he said that.. fuckin priceless !
P.s. im still laughing.,,

Desperate guys to make cash and desperate junkies all the way to the house wife in the suburbs rapped up in that shit ....it’s all over the place.


But the made guys should know how hot you get and the time and how quick people rat to even think about getting in they have to be much further up the chain to be a little safer. Bad move.

I cant see how they can even fight this case.

They have a made guy wearing a wire, they have a fed wearing a wire, and you have phone taps and video.

They have two options flip or take a plea deal.

Dom never had a murder case.... He never arrested for murder. He also probably the most true.blue dude around. To Be.honest.... he one of the old school guys ahe only 40 but all got respect for.him as if he OG

Shouldn't speculate shit like this.... Calling someone an informant is no small shit... Sal piccolo is.no rat.... He sat for 15 ... He'll so again
The informant is known.... It's.no secret. ..those who really knows these guys already know thee deal. ..
. Haven't seen his.name mentioned ONCE