The Russians will never be more powerful than the Italians in New York because even if their powers or their monopolies are down there are two extremely powerful families whose forces are still very high which are the Genovese and Gambino families and even if their powers were to weaken there is the Ndrangetta which shows its nose little by little and I think that in twenty or thirty years the Calabrians will be very powerful and will have passed the Sicilians as it is currently the case in Montreal and in Canada.
The main rivals of the Italians in New York are the Albanians who have not hesitated to attack the families of New York in the early 2000s the problem is that it only takes a mass arrests for an organization and these no longer exist to the contrary of Italian families.
For the Russians they would have more chances in other cities than New York as Chicago Los Angeles Detroit ...

The Italians are now resigned to corner street dealing and hijacking. Small time stuff.
Russians are engaged in the more profitable crime rackets....

Fbi very worried about Russian Mob in NY
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/08/23/nyregion/influx-of-russian-gangsters-troubles-fbi-in-brooklyn.html

Russian Mafiya Runns Cybercrime
http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/07/russian-mob-runs-world-of-internet.html



Federal agents arrested nine members of a Brooklyn-based Russian organized crime syndicate on Wednesday.

BY John Marzulli
NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
November 9, 2016,

Federal agents arrested nine reputed members of a Brooklyn-based Russian organized crime syndicate Wednesday with close ties to an underworld group in Eastern Europe known as Thieves in Law, authorities said.
A 10-count indictment unsealed in Brooklyn Federal Court charges them with racketeering, extortion, loansharking, marijuana trafficking and illegal gambling.

"The defendants, all of whom are members of the transnational enterprise, report abroad to high-ranking organized crime members living in Eastern Europe," Assistant U.S. Attorneys Matthew Jacobs and Andrey Spektor stated in court papers.
The Thieves in Law helped the Brooklyn mobsters collect extortion debts from victims living outside the U.S., the prosecutors stated.


One victim who owed the Brooklyn mobsters $200,000 was tracked down in Israel and other family members were in Russia with the help of the Thieves.
The mobsters are expected to be arraigned in Brooklyn Federal Court on Wednesday afternoon.
The Brooklyn mobsters operated in Coney Island and Brighton Beach, sources said. High-stakes poker games were set up at a building on Coney Island Ave. which from the outside appeared to be an auto leasing and private security business.

One defendant, Aleksey Tsvetkov, was previously convicted of racketeering in 2005 and deported to the Ukraine. But Tsvetkov was allowed to return to the U.S. and granted asylum after claiming that he was tortured when he returned to his homeland.
Agents from the Drug Enforcement Administration, Internal Revenue Service, and the NYPD also busted Leonid Gershman, Renat Yusufov, Igor Krugly, Vyacheslav Malkeyev, Isok Aronov, Yusuf Pardilov, and Librado Rivera.

Russian mafia boss shot down in Moscow
The leader of the syndicate is indicted but remains a fugitive, officials said.

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New York Fed is in bed with Safra and the Russian mafia

by Jeffrey Steinberg

Every day of the week, between $100 million and $1 billion in U.S. hundred-dollar bills, are flown from New York's Kennedy Airport to Moscow, where they are funnelled through a string of unregulated, sleazy banks, into the hands of Russia's leading mafiosi, helping to fuel the biggest orga­nized crime boom since U.S. Prohibition helped jump-start the late Meyer Lansky's National Crime Syndicate.

Accord­ing to a cover story in the Jan. 22, 1996 New York Magazine, these crisp, new "C-notes" are sold by the New York Federal Reserve Bank to Republic National Bank of New York. That bank's owner, Edmond Safra, has had more than one run ­in with U.S. federal narcotics authorities.
Back in1989, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration and the U.S. Customs Service linked Republic and Safra to major money­ laundering schemes by the Medellin Cartel and by the Swiss ­based Shakarchi Trading Company, a laundromat for Syrian and East bloc heroin profits.
New York Magazine writer Robert I. Friedman, (assassinated) who au­thored the Jan. 22 story, is no stranger to cross-currents of big time politics, finance, and the underworld. He has written a very unauthorized biography of the late Rabbi Meir Kahane, founder of the terrorist Jewish Defense League and Kach Movement, and he has catalogued the activities of the Jewish underground in the Israeli Occupied Territories.

https://www.larouchepub.com/eiw/pub...004-new_york_fed_is_in_bed_with_safr.pdf

I also think that the Russians may make more money in the US than the American Mafia. But they are not more powerful. And never was and never will be.

Just because one organization makes more money than the other dont make it the more powerful one. If the two organizations are equal powerful and ONE have more money than the other then okey, the one with more money wins. But its not obvius just because you have more money you win.

However if we are talking about(moneywise) 2000 and forward i think Russians make more money, they simply do STATE buisnesses, Oil and banks and shit its on another level.

in the indictments you posted russians were involved in extortions, gambling etc, the same things of italian mafia
but italian mafia is bigger in the states so it makes more money
russian mafia doesn't own banks and oil companies in the states, that's in russia, like italian mafia in italy wosn tons of legal enterprises
so i don't think russian mafia makes more money, probably the italians make
also i see georgian clans in europe countries (the most powerful among russian oc) are often involved in bulglaries, that it is not a so lucrative business

http://www.newsweek.com/britain-unexplained-wealth-orders-russian-oligarchs-821009

SHOULD BRITAIN’S CRACKDOWN ON DIRTY MONEY WORRY RUSSIAN OLIGARCHS?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/28/europe/russia-drug-smuggling-argentina-intl/index.html

The drug smuggling scandal Russia wants to wish away

https://www.thelocal.de/20180302/russian-mastermind-in-argentina-cocaine-plot-arrested-in-berlin

Russian 'mastermind' in Argentina cocaine plot arrested in Berlin

https://en.crimerussia.com/organize...nages-mark-bronovsky-s-assets-in-russia/

Russian mafia again'. American lobbyist manages Mark Bronovsky's assets in Russia

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5472221/Russian-hitman-describes-killed-40-people-mob.html

Russian mafia hitman describes how he killed up to 40 people for the mob... and had to shoot victims up close because he's so short-sighted

https://www.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/editorial/russian-gangland-uk.html

Russian gangland in UK

https://en.crimerussia.com/organizedcrime/spanish-laundromat-of-russian-mafia-part-ii/

Spanish ‘laundromat’ of Russian mafia. Part II

https://jamestown.org/program/trial-decade-spain-declares-war-russian-organized-crime/

‘Trial of the Decade’: Spain Declares War on Russian Organized Crime

https://en.crimerussia.com/organize...izmaylovskaya-s-case-collapses-in-spain/

€750.000 apiece. Solntsevskaya-Izmaylovskaya’s case collapses in Spain

https://en.crimerussia.com/organize...nce-to-team-up-in-the-tambov-mafia-case/

Spain upbraids Russia for reluctance to team up in the Tambov mafia case

https://www.holyrood.com/articles/n...ehind-poisoning-former-spy-jeremy-corbyn

"Russian mafia-like groups" could have been behind poisoning of former spy, Jeremy Corbyn suggests

http://www.scmp.com/news/world/euro...-businessman-glushkov-murder-says-police

Russian exile Nikolai Glushkov was strangled to death, say London police

In my opinion the most powerful mafia in the world.

it's among the most powerful, but italian mafia and mexican cartles seem to be currently more powerful

Skripal case: Novichok creators say it is the “most powerful and unique chemical weapon in the world.”

https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-...-and-his-daughter-s-chances-of-survival/

With the Media, yes. In basis of fact...No.
Drugs, Arms, Money Laundering, Slavery and Trafficking, Extortion, Bribery etc...Hands down the 'Russian' Mafiya.

the british murders anyway seems to be political affairs, not mafia-related one, putin and his entourage, maybe some mafia connection
but the oligharcs and people around putin run stuff
the real mafia groups are the 'thieves in law' (georgians mostly) not businessmen close to putin

Powerful businessmen, notorious criminals and high-level officials in the government it is all intertwined.

Look for example at the Spanish case against Gennady Petrov.

yes, but usually under a dictatorship (and putin is a dictator) the mafia is weaker, not stronger
putin uses gangsters or ex kgb members to do some dirty work and he gets ride of them after

I agree without Putin it would be chaos like in the 90s. BTW he won today with 75% of the votes.

https://en.crimerussia.com/organizedcrime/chechen-gangs-downing-berlin/

Chechen gangs downing Berlin

Long, but good read!

https://www.theguardian.com/news/20...russia-vory-super-mafia?CMP=share_btn_tw

https://www.kompromat.lv/item.php?docid=readn&id=9007
This article says that the cocaine was meant for also known in Latvia Russian criminal authority Konstantin "Kola(Cola)" Stecyuk. Stecyuk survived an assasination attempt some years ago in Riga, Latvia. Two hitmen with AK's opened fire at him and his family, bodyguards shot back and caught one of the hitmen who was Chechen Descent. The hitman later got 13 years in prison for this assasination attempt.
Another person not mentioned in the article, but people rumoring connected to the case is Yuriy "Polkasha" Polkovnikov - ex member of Haritonov Brigade, had a fight some years ago with Maxim Gavrilov, a brigade leader from Pardaugava Group. Polkovnikov got beaten up bad that time, but Gavrilov got assasinated a half year later.

Also in the comments people say that the current leader of the Haritonov Brigade - Gennadiy "Dlinniy(english: Tall guy)"Valyagin got arrested also with connection to this case, but there's no confirmation about it.

https://en.crimerussia.com/organizedcrime/spanish-laundromat-of-russian-mafia-part-iii/

Spanish ‘laundromat’ of Russian mafia. Part III

http://www.weeklystandard.com/murders-most-foul/article/2012062

Murders Most Foul