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Re: ??'s on Colombo guys
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[quote=Japseye1]Can anyone answer this about Mike Franzese , how was he made in 75 when the books were reopened in 76? I can only assume be I just have a hard time believing that every family waited until the books were officially open. Like Junior Soprano said "We break more rules than the Catholic Church" Now I get that is fiction but I think the point is accurate. It's an interesting debate however you view it. I'm not sure it's a mistake because in every single testimony of his he mentions Halloween night 1975 and then there was 5 others with him. I believe that too. There must be some families out there who dished out the odd initiation here and there, especially if good money was being brought in. It must of being awkward saying to Don Carlo in 1975 "this is a friend of ours" about some guy who was born in late 1950s , his reply would be wtf you don't look old enough lol
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Re: ??'s on Colombo guys
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[quote=Japseye1]Can anyone answer this about Mike Franzese , how was he made in 75 when the books were reopened in 76? I can only assume be I just have a hard time believing that every family waited until the books were officially open. Like Junior Soprano said "We break more rules than the Catholic Church" Now I get that is fiction but I think the point is accurate. It's an interesting debate however you view it. I'm not sure it's a mistake because in every single testimony of his he mentions Halloween night 1975 and then there was 5 others with him. I believe that too. There must be some families out there who dished out the odd initiation here and there, especially if good money was being brought in. It must of being awkward saying to Don Carlo in 1975 "this is a friend of ours" about some guy who was born in late 1950s , his reply would be wtf you don't look old enough lol A person could not be made unless the family had permission from the Commission. Otherwise he's not not a "friend of ours."
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Re: ??'s on Colombo guys
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[quote=Japseye1]Can anyone answer this about Mike Franzese , how was he made in 75 when the books were reopened in 76? I can only assume be I just have a hard time believing that every family waited until the books were officially open. Like Junior Soprano said "We break more rules than the Catholic Church" Now I get that is fiction but I think the point is accurate. It's an interesting debate however you view it. I'm not sure it's a mistake because in every single testimony of his he mentions Halloween night 1975 and then there was 5 others with him. I believe that too. There must be some families out there who dished out the odd initiation here and there, especially if good money was being brought in. It must of being awkward saying to Don Carlo in 1975 "this is a friend of ours" about some guy who was born in late 1950s , his reply would be wtf you don't look old enough lol A person could not be made unless the family had permission from the Commission. Otherwise he's not not a "friend of ours." I'm on the theory that the books were closed late 1950s and opened back in 76 but they sneaked an initiation now and again
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Re: ??'s on Colombo guys
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the oldest argument on the board. acoording to greg scarpa when carmine persico brother allie came home from prison in 1972 after like 15yrs allie was made. carmine was a hitter for carlo so he made it happen. turncoats casso from the luchese said he was made in 1974 fish carfo said fat ony and funzi tieri made him in 1974 he even sponcerd todays boss barney n for his induction in 1977 barney was like 20 21. george barone a genovese waterfront guy said fat tony made him in 1974. think it came up to the families boss decision, carlo gambino didnt need any new guys and after he died big paul made tons of guys. in dec 1976 into 77. oh and greg scarpa jr said he was made in 1975 by dibella the boss at that time nice
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Re: ??'s on Colombo guys
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the oldest argument on the board. acoording to greg scarpa when carmine persico brother allie came home from prison in 1972 after like 15yrs allie was made. carmine was a hitter for carlo so he made it happen. turncoats casso from the luchese said he was made in 1974 fish carfo said fat ony and funzi tieri made him in 1974 he even sponcerd todays boss barney n for his induction in 1977 barney was like 20 21. george barone a genovese waterfront guy said fat tony made him in 1974. think it came up to the families boss decision, carlo gambino didnt need any new guys and after he died big paul made tons of guys. in dec 1976 into 77. oh and greg scarpa jr said he was made in 1975 by dibella the boss at that time On top of that you have: Al D'Arco saying the books were opened in 1974 and 30 new Luchese guys were initiated (not him though) Buster Ardito saying on wiretap in 1974 "they opened it up and and made everybody" Joey Cantelupo saying Shorty Spero was made in 1975 Joey Massino testifying that he was offered membership in 1975 (but turned it down) I could understand if one guy said he was made before 1976 that he might have just remembered it wrong, but there's so many people
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Re: ??'s on Colombo guys
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I could understand if one guy said he was made before 1976 that he might have just remembered it wrong, but there's so many people
yes that too ++
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