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Re: Strongest organized crime group
[Re: Revis_Knicks]
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04/10/18 11:25 AM
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It obviously depends on which country/continent/region is in each question . But I'd say the organized crime groups with the strongest international presence/influence are certain Latin American drug cartels as well as certain clans belonging to the Ndrangheta .
Some Camorra clans may also fit the bill , but I may be wrong .
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/13/18 12:08 PM
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Ndrangheta is an umbrella group so how many clans actually have international branches? There's over 100 clans and i doubt all of them have an international branch (es). No differ from these other crime associations , some groups are more larger than others just like street gangs umbrellas. ndrangheta is an unique oganization like cosa nostra, there are several clans but they belong to a single criminal group and there is a boss of bosses according to police it has nothing to do with street gangs, very different thing, ndrangheta is strongly connected with politicians, freemasons, businessmen, street gangs run just streets stuff (drug dealing, prostitution) and they are not a single group, although bloods and crisps may claim of
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/13/18 07:52 PM
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They are secret societies occult but also business-like. the triads are also,and the tongs,they'are all Masons.
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/13/18 08:46 PM
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Ndrangheta is an umbrella group so how many clans actually have international branches? There's over 100 clans and i doubt all of them have an international branch (es). No differ from these other crime associations , some groups are more larger than others just like street gangs umbrellas. ndrangheta is an unique oganization like cosa nostra, there are several clans but they belong to a single criminal group and there is a boss of bosses according to police it has nothing to do with street gangs, very different thing, ndrangheta is strongly connected with politicians, freemasons, businessmen, street gangs run just streets stuff (drug dealing, prostitution) and they are not a single group, although bloods and crisps may claim of You misunderstood the question & comparison. There's over 100 clans and they vary by membership. How many clans actually have international branches in other countries. You stated their similar like Cosa Nostra which means the Ndrangheta isn't a single organization but an association of crime groups that share a code of conduct. Hence, similar to a gang umbrella. Examples: Crips Umbrella have over 100 gangs. Each gang varies in size & activities. Ndrangheta Association have over 100 clans. Each vary in size & activities. Certain Crip gangs are bigger like the Rollin 60s, Grape Street, or Hoover Criminals. Im expecting there's certain Ndrangheta clans that have a large membership.
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/13/18 10:44 PM
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They are secret societies occult but also business-like. the triads are also,and the tongs,they'are all Masons. Indeed, the triads are also influenced by British Imperialism.
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/14/18 04:15 AM
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Ndrangheta is an umbrella group so how many clans actually have international branches? There's over 100 clans and i doubt all of them have an international branch (es). No differ from these other crime associations , some groups are more larger than others just like street gangs umbrellas. ndrangheta is an unique oganization like cosa nostra, there are several clans but they belong to a single criminal group and there is a boss of bosses according to police it has nothing to do with street gangs, very different thing, ndrangheta is strongly connected with politicians, freemasons, businessmen, street gangs run just streets stuff (drug dealing, prostitution) and they are not a single group, although bloods and crisps may claim of You misunderstood the question & comparison. There's over 100 clans and they vary by membership. How many clans actually have international branches in other countries. You stated their similar like Cosa Nostra which means the Ndrangheta isn't a single organization but an association of crime groups that share a code of conduct. Hence, similar to a gang umbrella. Examples: Crips Umbrella have over 100 gangs. Each gang varies in size & activities. Ndrangheta Association have over 100 clans. Each vary in size & activities. Certain Crip gangs are bigger like the Rollin 60s, Grape Street, or Hoover Criminals. Im expecting there's certain Ndrangheta clans that have a large membership. They all belong to SINGLE criminal group,when he said Cosa Nostra , he meant on Sicilian mafia, where you have Matteo Messina Denaro , who is not boss of bosses because he is not from Palermo,but if anyone is doing something important,he must have ok.Totally different thing than street gangs. Stupid comparison: look at them as a crews in Genovese Crime Family for example, they all belong to single criminal gropup(Genovese Crime Family),at the end they are all answering to a few people that are on top.
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/14/18 05:48 AM
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That looks kind of confusing. But so there is not just one boss who everyone answers to? Just families within one family? The difference between cosa nostra and ndrangheta is that of cosa nostra are knowned all the ranks:made man,caporegime,consigliere,underboss and boss but the ndrangheta ranks are many more and not all are knowed outside the ndranghet. The ndrangheta is divide in 2 societies: the minor society and the major society. At the bottom of the hierarchy is the ndrina that is composed by a family which controls a particular territory such as a town or a district of a city, and other affiliated subjects. The name of a 'ndrina therefore is nothing more than the surname of the family or in some cases the surnames of more families that over time have tight ties also driven by economic reasons (Pelle-Vottari, Nirta-Strangio etc). The boss of a ndrina is called capobastone and more ndrine form the LocaleIn a ndrina you can be made by birth or by merit,this are the ranks: Giovane d'Onore: affiliated because is son of a ndranghetantista with the hope that will follow his father in the ndrangheta; Picciotto d'Onore: a ndrangheta soldier; Camorrista: this rank is similar with the caporegime,usually is more old than the picciotti and give orders to them; Sgarrista:the one who collects the bribes and takes care of the accounting, similar to the Cosa Nostra's consigliere If a 'Ndrina within the local' Ndrangheta reaches the number of 50 made men, the capobastone can give life to the so-called "detached ndrina" that grows in importance compared to the other 'ndrine and extends over the territory concerned; However, the detachment must be authorized by Locale. ![[Linked Image]](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Locale_e_societ%C3%A0.jpg/800px-Locale_e_societ%C3%A0.jpg) And now know the Major Society or Società Maggiore To climb the hierarchy (especially if you aren't a son of a member) must have the doti (dowry) o the fiori (flowers). Every Locale had his boss,an accountant, who manages finances, and a crimine (crime), which governs how to settle accounts with rival gangs, organizing killings, extortions and ambushes. The only structure above the premises, in the past was the Santa. Tha Santa can be created only if in a locale there are 7 santisti,for this a ndrina made a meeting in a place that first must be baptized by the capo-società with a rite,and is him that chair the meeting. The Santa was created in the 1970s and with the years there was too many santisti and a new rank was created aka the Vangelista so called from the fact that he swears to the cosca with his hand on the Gospel, this a almost honorary role, obtained for criminal merits. Quintino, previously known as trequartino and still now called godfather, is the right arm, similar to the underboss of Cosa Nostra, which helps the Capobastone in the management of 'ndrina and can take his place in his absence. often led by a godfather. Recapitulating there is a compartmentalization between the two societies, and each has its own rites and ranks. Società minore (Minor Society) Picciotto Camorrista Sgarrista Società Maggiore (Major Society) Santa Vangelo Quartino and trequartino Godfather or Quintino Crusade (discovered in 2010) Stella (discovered in 2010) Bartolo (discovered in 2010) Mammasantissima or Mamma (discovered in 2010) Infinity (discovered in 2010) Count Ugolino (discovered in 2010) I hope I was clear.
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