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Re: Strongest organized crime group
[Re: m2w]
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04/16/18 03:25 PM
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Thank you for answering the question. I was curious about that ans seems this new revalation that there a hierarchical group seems rather vague. Also, It's CRIPs not crypts and yes some are connected to each other through family and business ties. You and many on here are just not aware of it. Like i said, certain groups have more connections then others. that's what italian police said after the operation 'crimine', ndrangheta is a big single hierarchical criminal group i doubt honestly that crips and bloods in the states are even close to it. they are just gangs under a flag but non connected eachother if not sporadically nigerian mafia yes, it's like the italian mafia Then do you think LCn is a single crime organization? Because they all have connection with each other and they have a ruling committe
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/16/18 03:58 PM
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Thank you for answering the question. I was curious about that ans seems this new revalation that there a hierarchical group seems rather vague. Also, It's CRIPs not crypts and yes some are connected to each other through family and business ties. You and many on here are just not aware of it. Like i said, certain groups have more connections then others. that's what italian police said after the operation 'crimine', ndrangheta is a big single hierarchical criminal group i doubt honestly that crips and bloods in the states are even close to it. they are just gangs under a flag but non connected eachother if not sporadically nigerian mafia yes, it's like the italian mafia Operation Crimine shows there's a hierarchical structure but still have rivalry between ndrina clans. So the structure is more to the ndrina individual . Again, Certain Crips/Bloods sets have a strong connections and those cliques visit the HQ regular and pay dues. You simply just don't know this.
If you think you are too small to make a difference, you haven't spend the night with a mosquito. - African Proverb
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/16/18 06:08 PM
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the fact that there are rivalry between some ndrangheta families it doesn't mean they are not a single group certain crips/bloods may have sporadic connections. but they are not comparable to ndrangheta where there are always meetings of bosses and there are clear ranks and structures I didn't state that Crips/Bloods are comparable just similar type of Association. It's not sporadic it's regular. LCN isn't a single organization.
If you think you are too small to make a difference, you haven't spend the night with a mosquito. - African Proverb
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/17/18 12:22 AM
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@m2w & Strax
Why do most L.E describe LCN as an Association or Federation instead as 1 single organization? Read the FBI reports. What do you consider a single organization ? U are making no sense Single Organizations with/without chapters,branches, & crews. Example: Wheels Of Soul, La Eme, 14K Traids Umbrella, Federation, Association, Collectives Ex: Surenos, Jamaican Massive/Posse, Yakuza What's so hard for you to understand the difference?
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/17/18 01:03 AM
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/17/18 04:05 AM
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Single Organizations with/without chapters,branches, & crews. Example: Wheels Of Soul, La Eme, 14K Traids 14k has many subgroups, wheels of soul many chapters, la eme is mostly a prison gang they are not under 1 single boss cosa nostra is a single big criminal group with rituals and ranks, when fbi said it is not? it said it is divided into families but ruled by a commission of bosses
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/17/18 05:40 AM
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Would you consider the Camorra one single organization based on their structure? Although less structured than its Sicilian counterpart, Cosa Nostra, it is an organization. After the Second World War the Camorra changed enormously. The obligatory stay in Naples by Lucky Luciano caused an increase in the local support of the organization. This led to the inclusion of rural Camorists in the large international illegal traffic. However, in this phase the Camorra did not have a concentration of power at the top, which would only occur in the coming periods. The soldiers of the Camorra are real officials of crime. They receive a decent monthly wage. There is also a system of social security, where the soldiers and their relatives are financially assisted in case of illness or imprisonment. The Camorra is nestled in all the Neapolitan communities. The gangs have mastered the local authorities. They control all public expenditures. In these municipalities, tenders are primarily allocated to companies of the Camorra. A notable difference with Cosa Nostra is that women play a more important, often leading role.
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/17/18 01:36 PM
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Single Organizations with/without chapters,branches, & crews. Example: Wheels Of Soul, La Eme, 14K Traids 14k has many subgroups, wheels of soul many chapters, la eme is mostly a prison gang they are not under 1 single boss cosa nostra is a single big criminal group with rituals and ranks, when fbi said it is not? it said it is divided into families but ruled by a commission of bosses Note: I stated with branches, chapters, or none. Wheels of Soul literally have a mother chapter President. 14K is a organaztion with branches, La Eme is a single organzation with no sub-groups therefore a committee in place. LCN commission was in place to settle disputes and occasional pool in resources. Every boss managed their own syndicate autonomously. It's been stated over and over LCN isn't a monolithic organization.
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/17/18 01:39 PM
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Single Organizations with/without chapters,branches, & crews. Example: Wheels Of Soul, La Eme, 14K Traids
14k Triads are divided into 30 sub groups,every sub group has it own leader and they are still considered single organization like 'Ndrangheta,Cosa Nostra etc. Yes you got it for 14K Triads is single organization with many sub groups aka branches/factions/crews. Triads is the Umbrella or Association. Corleone clan is the single organization. Sicilian Cosa Nostra/Mafia is the Association or Society.
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/17/18 03:10 PM
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Yes you got it for 14K Triads is single organization with many sub groups aka branches/factions/crews. Triads is the Umbrella or Association. Corleone clan is the single organization. Sicilian Cosa Nostra/Mafia is the Association or Society. and where is the difference with cosa nostra, lcn or ndrangheta? 14 k is a single organization divided into subgroups, cosa nostra/lcn/ndrangheta are single organizations divided into families wheels of soul are divided into many chapters that work autonomously, there is not a boss of bosses, there is a president, but only in name the only real monolitich big criminal group was sicilian cosa nostra under totò riina who commanded all other bosses
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/17/18 03:57 PM
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Yes you got it for 14K Triads is single organization with many sub groups aka branches/factions/crews. Triads is the Umbrella or Association. Corleone clan is the single organization. Sicilian Cosa Nostra/Mafia is the Association or Society. and where is the difference with cosa nostra, lcn or ndrangheta? 14 k is a single organization divided into subgroups, cosa nostra/lcn/ndrangheta are single organizations divided into families wheels of soul are divided into many chapters that work autonomously, there is not a boss of bosses, there is a president, but only in name the only real monolitich big criminal group was sicilian cosa nostra under totò riina who commanded all other bosses President oversees everything.
If you think you are too small to make a difference, you haven't spend the night with a mosquito. - African Proverb
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/18/18 03:10 PM
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Camorra doesn't have close connections with masonic lodges,they do have connections with them,but not close like 'Ndrangheta and Sicilian Mafia have , one 'Ndrangheta boss was caught on tape saying: "Its not about 'Ndrangheta anymore,its all about P4/P5" its name of masonic lodge,P2 existed back in 80's, P2 was responsible for collapse of Vatican-affiliated Banco Ambrosiano,also murder of Roberto Calvi aka God's banker who was chairman of Banco Ambrosiano, members of P2 were heads of the three Italian secret services,son of last italian king , Silvio Berlusconi , almost all most powerful people in country were members of P2.
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Re: Strongest organized crime group
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04/18/18 03:48 PM
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Camorra doesn't have close connections with masonic lodges,they do have connections with them,but not close like 'Ndrangheta and Sicilian Mafia have , one 'Ndrangheta boss was caught on tape saying: "Its not about 'Ndrangheta anymore,its all about P4/P5" its name of masonic lodge,P2 existed back in 80's, P2 was responsible for collapse of Vatican-affiliated Banco Ambrosiano,also murder of Roberto Calvi aka God's banker who was chairman of Banco Ambrosiano, members of P2 were heads of the three Italian secret services,son of last italian king , Silvio Berlusconi , almost all most powerful people in country were members of P2. Totally agree the most powerful organization of Camorra was Cutolo's NCO, but the war with Nuova Famiglia destroyed that. Now we still see alliances between clans, but the NCO was another level.
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