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Re: Svengoolie
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08/02/18 02:34 PM
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I see Sven's got Son of Frankenstein (1939) coming up this weekend. Great film. A classic. Some things to note:
Lionel Atwill's one-armed Inspector Krogh was the direct inspiration for Kenneth Mars's character in Young Frankenstein. Around this time, Atwill's career was severely affected by a sex scandal and the onetime star was relegated to small supporting roles until his death in 1946.
The set design was highly stylized, harking back to the German Expressionist films of the 1920's. No other film in the Frankenstein series had this "look."
In the first two films (Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein), the Monster's creator is named Henry Frankenstein. Yet, in this film, Henry's son is named Wolf von Frankenstein. Guess someone in Universal Pictures' continuity department was asleep at the wheel.
There are rumors that the film was originally to be shot in color. If any test footage was shot, it is lost; however, several seconds of color home movie footage shot between scenes exists and is on YouTube (and probably other places). Boris Karloff (in green makeup) can be seen clowning around with makeup artist Jack Pierce and sticking his tongue out for the camera.
In this film, notice the difference is Boris Karloff's appearance compared to the first two films. Originally, the Monster was very thin, and Karloff removed a dental bridge so he could suck in his right cheek to make his face thinner. By the time Son of Frankenstein was made (Karloff's last time as the Monster), he had put on a bit of weight - and the overall look was not helped any by the addition of a bulky sheepskin coat to the costume. So, he took on a lumbering, well-fed appearance compared with the original film, where he looked more like a reanimated corpse.
Ever wonder why, in the previous film (Bride of Frankenstein), the Monster blows up the laboratory (and himself) yet turns up in this film unburned, unscarred and without a mark on his clothes? This happened a lot in the Frankenstein films - self-regenerating clothing!
Oh, and for the curious: Why was the Frankenstein Monster green? In the early days of film, they wanted a color that would photograph nearly corpse-white onscreen, but pure white could not be used because it would have looked too clown-like. After some experimentation, it was found that a grayish-green greasepaint would work in black & white. Great line: "No one can mend Ygor's neck. It's all right!" (See the film and you'll see what I'm talking about.)
Loved the film, ever since I was a kid. Wonder what little added tidbits Svengoolie has for us this time?
Signor V.
"For me, there's only my wife..."
"Sure I cook with wine - sometimes I even add it to the food!"
"When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies?"
"It was a grass harp... And we listened."
"Do any human beings ever realize life while they live it? Every, every minute?"
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Re: Svengoolie
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I see Sven's got Son of Frankenstein (1939) coming up this weekend. Great film. A classic. Some things to note:
Lionel Atwill's one-armed Inspector Krogh was the direct inspiration for Kenneth Mars's character in Young Frankenstein. Around this time, Atwill's career was severely affected by a sex scandal and the onetime star was relegated to small supporting roles until his death in 1946.
The set design was highly stylized, harking back to the German Expressionist films of the 1920's. No other film in the Frankenstein series had this "look."
In the first two films (Frankenstein and Bride of Frankenstein), the Monster's creator is named Henry Frankenstein. Yet, in this film, Henry's son is named Wolf von Frankenstein. Guess someone in Universal Pictures' continuity department was asleep at the wheel.
There are rumors that the film was originally to be shot in color. If any test footage was shot, it is lost; however, several seconds of color home movie footage shot between scenes exists and is on YouTube (and probably other places). Boris Karloff (in green makeup) can be seen clowning around with makeup artist Jack Pierce and sticking his tongue out for the camera.
In this film, notice the difference is Boris Karloff's appearance compared to the first two films. Originally, the Monster was very thin, and Karloff removed a dental bridge so he could suck in his right cheek to make his face thinner. By the time Son of Frankenstein was made (Karloff's last time as the Monster), he had put on a bit of weight - and the overall look was not helped any by the addition of a bulky sheepskin coat to the costume. So, he took on a lumbering, well-fed appearance compared with the original film, where he looked more like a reanimated corpse.
Ever wonder why, in the previous film (Bride of Frankenstein), the Monster blows up the laboratory (and himself) yet turns up in this film unburned, unscarred and without a mark on his clothes? This happened a lot in the Frankenstein films - self-regenerating clothing!
Oh, and for the curious: Why was the Frankenstein Monster green? In the early days of film, they wanted a color that would photograph nearly corpse-white onscreen, but pure white could not be used because it would have looked too clown-like. After some experimentation, it was found that a grayish-green greasepaint would work in black & white. Great line: "No one can mend Ygor's neck. It's all right!" (See the film and you'll see what I'm talking about.)
Loved the film, ever since I was a kid. Wonder what little added tidbits Svengoolie has for us this time?
Signor V. One of my favorites as well, after your comments and listed facts I cannot wait to se this again this weekend and see them all again with my favorite season coming in October. Thank you Sir.
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Re: Svengoolie
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08/17/18 03:38 PM
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Got a good one coming up tomorrow night: 1944's House of Frankenstein. Here are some things to watch for and a few interesting tidbits, off the top of my pointy little head: The film marks a return to the "Frankenstein" series for Boris Karloff, but not as the Monster. Here, he plays Dr. Niemann, Mad Scientist. The role of the Monster is now played for the first time by Glenn Strange, previously known as a baddie in B-Westerns and from the cheapie The Mad Monster. According to Strange, Karloff was immensely helpful to him in learning the Monster's "moves" - although the Monster really doesn't have a lot to do in this film until the end. The first part of the film deals with Dracula, now played for the first time by John Carradine. Here, we see, also for the first time, Dracula transforming into a bat (in a shadow silhouette) and also, in bat-form, biting a victim (also in shadow). However - since, traditionally, vampires cast no shadow, well... And watch during the coach chase and Dracula's death - Carradine loses half of his false moustache! Guess they were too cheap at Universal Pictures to do any retakes. Speaking of bloopers, we see the Wolf Man transform while looking into a mirror in medium close-up. Fine so far. But, when the camera pulls back, we see that the Makeup Dept. forgot to give Lon Chaney the hairy werewolf gloves to complete the character's look. This too, was left in the finished film. This was an early film for young actress Elena Verdugo, who played Ilonka the Gypsy girl. According to her, Chaney (who had a reputation as a hell-raiser and a bad drunk) was nothing but a gentleman to her during filming and was quite protective of her. (On the other hand, Evelyn Ankers, Chaney's co-star in 1941's The Wolf Man and a stalwart of Universal's early '40s horror films, definitely did not get along with Chaney.) Elena Verdugo went on to become well-known for playing "Consuelo" on the TV series Marcus Welby, M.D. from 1969-1976. She died in 2017 at age 92. A number of familiar faces to look for: Lionel Atwill (post sex-scandal) as Inspector Arnz, George Zucco as Prof. Lampini, Sig Ruman (the heavy in several Marx Bros. films) as Hussman, Frank Reicher (Capt. Englehorn in the original King Kong and Son of Kong) as Ullman, Brandon Hurst (character actor who appeared in 1932's Murders in the Rue Morgue and the original 1923 Hunchback of Notre Dame with Lon Chaney Sr.) as Dr. Geissler, and probably some others whose names escape me at the moment. Ever wonder why, when Dracula is revived, even his clothing rematerializes? Guess it wouldn't do to have a newly-reanimated, butt-naked skinny vampire flapping around the sleepy hamlet of Riegelburg trying desperately to buy formal wear and a cape before the sun comes up! Semi-Spoiler Alert: Though Count Dracula, the Wolf Man and the Frankenstein Monster all die in the film (what a surprise!), only the Monster is brought back in the next film (1945's House of Dracula) with a continuity link to this one. Drac and Wolfie just appear with no explanation given as to how they "survived" their fates in House of Frankenstein. Anyway, don't take the film too seriously, sit back with a couple of beers (or more) and enjoy. Signor V.
"For me, there's only my wife..."
"Sure I cook with wine - sometimes I even add it to the food!"
"When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies?"
"It was a grass harp... And we listened."
"Do any human beings ever realize life while they live it? Every, every minute?"
"No. Saints and poets, maybe... they do some."
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Re: Svengoolie
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08/17/18 05:28 PM
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"Why don't people clean up after their pets? Yecch!"Couldn't resist. Signor V.
"For me, there's only my wife..."
"Sure I cook with wine - sometimes I even add it to the food!"
"When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies?"
"It was a grass harp... And we listened."
"Do any human beings ever realize life while they live it? Every, every minute?"
"No. Saints and poets, maybe... they do some."
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Re: Svengoolie
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08/17/18 06:08 PM
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A couple of other bits of House of Frankenstein-related trivia:
Actress Anne Gwynne (1918 - 2003) was the grandmother of actor Chris Pine.
Yugoslav-born actor Peter Coe (1918 - 1993) gave his friend, infamous schlock writer/director Ed Wood and his wife Kathy a place to stay in 1978 after they were evicted from their apartment. Shortly afterward, Wood died of a heart attack while resting in Coe's bed.
Signor V.
"For me, there's only my wife..."
"Sure I cook with wine - sometimes I even add it to the food!"
"When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies?"
"It was a grass harp... And we listened."
"Do any human beings ever realize life while they live it? Every, every minute?"
"No. Saints and poets, maybe... they do some."
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Re: Svengoolie
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10/06/18 11:20 PM
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Ah, The Return of the Vampire. Gee, I didn't know he'd been away! A nice little film that I've enjoyed since childhood. Low budget, but atmospheric. Interesting facts: How to melt a vampire: The disintegration was achieved by a plaster face casting of Bela Lugosi that was duplicated in wax by makeup artist Clay Campbell. Campbell had previously worked in a wax museum before becoming a makeup artist and used the techniques he had previously employed in creating wax effigies - e.g., implanting hairs one at a time with a hot needle so the Lugosi head looked amazingly real in close-up. Unfortunately, the heating element built into the in the plaster skull understructure melted the wax far too slowly to be used in "real time" and the effect was drastically shortened in the finished film. (It worked better in Raiders of the Lost Ark, but they had to really speed up the film!) Copies of this Bela Lugosi life-mask can occasionally be found for sale on the Internet. Only two face casts were known to be taken of Lugosi; the one taken in 1955 for The Black Sleep is believed lost. Well, this has been speeded up and "dissolved" together into one continuous shot. It sure didn't look like this in the film - though it's still pretty gruesome for its time, I'd say! (I like the way his ear falls off!) Werewolf spawns lawsuit! Yep, Universal Pictures sued Columbia Pictures claiming that the design for Andreas the Werewolf was pilfered from The Wolf Man, starring Lon Chaney Jr., filmed two years earlier. Columbia did not prevail, as the design was quite different - and besides, this wolf could talk and never bit anyone - although he did punch a cop during a brawl (or the stuntman did). Clearly a case of Universal barking up the wrong tree. Reverse image. At some point while editing the film, it was discovered that the shot of Andreas's final transformation from werewolf to human did not match the shots of the actor immediately before and after, so the scene was simply printed in reverse rather than spend money reshooting the entire transformation with the special effects involved. Notice that his mole is on his other cheek and he holds the crucifix in his left hand for this shot only. Next week's Svengoolie: Cry of the Werewolf from 1944, starring Nina Foch (who was Nikki in The Return of the Vampire). Signor V.
"For me, there's only my wife..."
"Sure I cook with wine - sometimes I even add it to the food!"
"When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies?"
"It was a grass harp... And we listened."
"Do any human beings ever realize life while they live it? Every, every minute?"
"No. Saints and poets, maybe... they do some."
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Re: Svengoolie
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01/26/19 05:36 PM
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Tonight:
The Werewolf
My opinion: A somewhat unsung little gem from 1956. A B-movie, shot on a lot of real locations, it's a simple, straightforward story about when bad shit happens to an ordinary guy. Some nice makeup (Clay Campbell recycled his lycanthrope design from 1943's Return of the Vampire and doubled the hair), a couple of genuinely scary scenes and a very sympathetic performance by Steven Ritch as the title character. Also, IMHO, this was probably one of the best roles Don Megowan ever had - unless you've seen Creation of the Humanoids!.
If you've never seen this film, I'd say it's a good way to kill two hours. And Sven's commentaries are always informative.
Signor V.
"For me, there's only my wife..."
"Sure I cook with wine - sometimes I even add it to the food!"
"When life itself seems lunatic, who knows where madness lies?"
"It was a grass harp... And we listened."
"Do any human beings ever realize life while they live it? Every, every minute?"
"No. Saints and poets, maybe... they do some."
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Re: Svengoolie
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01/27/19 09:18 PM
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Tonight:
The Werewolf
My opinion: A somewhat unsung little gem from 1956. A B-movie, shot on a lot of real locations, it's a simple, straightforward story about when bad shit happens to an ordinary guy. Some nice makeup (Clay Campbell recycled his lycanthrope design from 1943's Return of the Vampire and doubled the hair), a couple of genuinely scary scenes and a very sympathetic performance by Steven Ritch as the title character. Also, IMHO, this was probably one of the best roles Don Megowan ever had - unless you've seen Creation of the Humanoids!.
If you've never seen this film, I'd say it's a good way to kill two hours. And Sven's commentaries are always informative.
Signor V. Agree, , great flick... I love the way it was shot and the sets.... I also loved the Gypsys especially the old lady who ended up in many movies.
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Re: Svengoolie
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Mr Sardonicus. 1961
Creepy. I remember it well. Luv it. The classics are the Best. Mr. V. has some serious solid info here..... you guys Rock. Keep the best burning.
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