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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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Who said I was a gun nut? Not me. I was just referring to them in general. You spoke on their behalf. Do you even know how many firearms I own? Too many, that's for certain. I am a believer in the second amendment and won't go without a fight When the authorities come for you, I'll have my popcorn.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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@irishman
Its harder to get weapons if they don't sell ak47s in stores
Disarming the country would help with Violence
The war on drugs is a farce, too many politicians snort coke
The govt makes alot of money from the drug economy
People buy food while high and get prescribed drugs to get off drugs So you say the war on drugs is a farce and the government makes a lot of money from the drug economy? But yet you still believe that the war on the second amendment wouldn't be a farce and the same government wouldn't make a lot of money from the gun economy? Ok  The war on drugs is a farce, weed is getting legalized Another school shooting today and the govt wont care There wont be a change until a senators kid gets murdered
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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[quote=Irishman12]uses a shotgun or pistol, then do we ban those as well?
We'll discuss that when they do. In the meantime, the AR-15 seems to be the weapon of choice.
Already did. Ever hear of the YouTube shooter? So, still think AR-15's are the problem or did yesterday's shooting in Texas not quantify as a mass shooting? 10 dead and 10 injured. Also, please tell me again how the NRA was responsible for yesterday's shooting?
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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Do you even know how many firearms I own? Too many, that's for certain. Wow, glad you seem to think you know me so well, but you'd actually be wrong.
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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@irishman
Its harder to get weapons if they don't sell ak47s in stores
Disarming the country would help with Violence
The war on drugs is a farce, too many politicians snort coke
The govt makes alot of money from the drug economy
People buy food while high and get prescribed drugs to get off drugs So you say the war on drugs is a farce and the government makes a lot of money from the drug economy? But yet you still believe that the war on the second amendment wouldn't be a farce and the same government wouldn't make a lot of money from the gun economy? Ok  The war on drugs is a farce, weed is getting legalized Another school shooting today and the govt wont care You do realize they're more drugs than weed, right? How's the heroin epidemic coming along? Especially in places like Virginia and Ohio.
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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[So, still think AR-15's are the problem or did yesterday's shooting in Texas not quantify as a mass shooting? 10 dead and 10 injured. Also, please tell me again how the NRA was responsible for yesterday's shooting? What does yesterday's shooting have to do with the Youtube shooting? 10 died yesterday. Only 1 death in the youtube shooting, the shooter. That is not a mass shooting. Would you stop grasping at straws? I already explained how the NRA is culpable for all gun violence today. In several comments. Scroll up or search my comment history.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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Do you even know how many firearms I own? Too many, that's for certain. Wow, glad you seem to think you know me so well, but you'd actually be wrong. If you own one gun, it's too many.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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Do you even know how many firearms I own? Too many, that's for certain. Wow, glad you seem to think you know me so well, but you'd actually be wrong. If you own one gun, it's too many.  Says you. Glad the second amendment didn't put a cap on it! 
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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[So, still think AR-15's are the problem or did yesterday's shooting in Texas not quantify as a mass shooting? 10 dead and 10 injured. Also, please tell me again how the NRA was responsible for yesterday's shooting? What does yesterday's shooting have to do with the Youtube shooting? 10 died yesterday. Only 1 death in the youtube shooting, the shooter. That is not a mass shooting. Would you stop grasping at straws? I already explained how the NRA is culpable for all gun violence today. In several comments. Scroll up or search my comment history. Both of them didn't use AR-15's. As you said in your own words "we'll discuss them when they do." Well, a pistol was used in the YouTube shooting, although, in your mind it doesn't quantify as a mass shooting since only 3 people where shot and no fatalities other than the shooter herself. But what about yesterday? A shotgun and a pistol were used. No AR-15. Still think the weapon is the problem and not the individual? And no, I'm still a little fuzzy on the NRA's role yesterday. Care to elaborate?
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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@irishman
the government is responsible for the heroin epidemic
They want drugs in the country because it makes money
an AR15 not being used yesterday doesnt mean shit
Assault weapons should not be sold to citizens
And what I was providing an example about is you seem to think the government is selling drugs (which, I'm not against that idea either). And if the second amendment is done away with, why would you think the government wouldn't do exactly what they're doing with drugs (i.e., selling/distribution and making money off of it), with guns (i.e., selling/distributing them to criminals)? It seems like you and OakAsFan actually believe that the government wouldn't do this with weapons like they're doing it with drugs? And an AR-15 not being used on Friday does matter. I understand OakAsFan and maybe even yourself to an extent want the second amendment done away with, but you won't come right out and say it. At first OakAsFan said just AR-15's should be banned, to which I replied that it won't stop with them. I even provided the example of what would happen if a shotgun or a pistol were used in a shooting, to which he replied, "we'll discuss that when they do." Well, they both were used on Friday so I'm trying to see what OakAsFan and your opinion is now that the precious AR-15 wasn't used. As I've said all along, the weapon is not the problem but rather the shooter. The left, in their anti-gun agenda, would rather blame the weapon which is not at fault but rather the person wielding it. You both seem to be dancing around the obvious which is you both want any and all guns banned. I'd respect you more if you just came out and said it rather than these semantics.
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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Year sure !! Oakasfan is living in a fantasy world if he expects us to believe that he really thinks the government wanst heroin in our country. We arent buying your nonsense oakasfan, we know you dont believe that. Oakasfan should join the soaring eagles and spread his anglo wings. Be proud and loud.
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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AR15s are the favorite weapon of mass shooters So what? Yes, AR-15's have been used in multiple mass shootings. But here's some information for you about Friday's shooting that the media is "forgetting" to report: 1) It's illegal to bring a firearm onto school grounds 2) It's illegal to saw the barrel off of a shotgun 3) It's illegal for a 17-year-old to posses a gun 4) It's illegal to carry without a permit in Texas 5) It's illegal to discharge a weapon in public 6) It's illegal to bring ammo on school grounds 7) It's illegal to shoot and murder people 8) It's illegal to conceal your weapon without a permit But yeah, we just need one more law. That'll do it!  Also, I came across this little nugget. Tell me again how we'll stop banning with just the AR-15 with legislation like this currently introduced in the House of Representatives? H.R. 5717
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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If you're saying we can't pass gun laws because people won't obey them, then it would seem to me we have a problem with law enforcement. So with all of these laws on the books, how would law enforcement have prevented this shooting then? @irishman
Why do i care more about white kids getting killed than you?
Thats the main point of the gun conversation
Americans don't care about each other
There were less mass shootings when assault weapons were banned
Who said I don't care about kids being killed, regardless of their race?
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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If you're saying we can't pass gun laws because people won't obey them, then it would seem to me we have a problem with law enforcement. So with all of these laws on the books, how would law enforcement have prevented this shooting then? Also, how would law enforcement have prevented the shooting at an Indiana middle school today?
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Re: Trump free’s hostages in North Korea
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If law enforcement put as much effort into stopping the proliferation of guns, as opposed to just catching individuals (particularly poor and of color) with unregistered guns, there would be less guns available.
There's a youtube video somewhere, I'll try to find it, of a community meeting on gang violence in some city, I don't remember. A woman asked a speaker in law enforcement how guns get onto the streets. The officer replied that most are probably just stolen from small retailers, or relatives, friends, etc.
The audience laughed, because, obviously, the massive quantities of assault weapons on the streets are not being stolen from grandma's house. The officer then gets frustrated and replies, "We don't know, and we don't care. We're going after the gang bangers who are destroying your community. We don't care how they get their weapons."
He was resoundingly booed, as he should have been. This kind of apathy and laziness in law enforcement is as much to blame for inner city violence as anything.
"...the successful annihilation of organized crime's subculture in America would rock the 'legitimate' world's foundation, which would ultimately force fundamental social changes and redistributions of wealth and power in this country. Meyer Lansky's dream was to bond the two worlds together so that one could not survive without the other." - Dan E. Moldea
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