No such thing happened. Trump expressed his opinion and my understanding of the first amendment it includes Trump.

can’t even get a straight yes or no huh

You want me to say yes or no on something which I proclaim did not happen.
I thought we were having a mature conversation.

I thought so as well. That’s why for the sake of conversation I said we can remove names and partisan affiliation from the equation. I simply asked if you are alright with the president, not Trump per se, using their influence to alter the policies of a private business. It’s a hypothetical, that’s all.

Fair question, normally I do not agree, but politicians do it all the time.

In the case of the anthem, it would be different. A president swears an oath to protect the constitution and it would be his patriotic duty to request that the flag be respected. I have no problems for the players to champion their causes and exercise their first amendment I just draw the line when it comes to the anthem and flag. I just find they are using the wrong public forum and I still maintain more people would join their causes if it would be held other than during the anthem.

The nfl players are choosing to kneel because its televised and they can easily get their 15 minutes of fame with their show boating. I can guarantee most of those guys can care less about their communities, its all about self promotion. Any idiot can kneel, it takes no effort. They just want other people to think they are somehow politically and socially concious.
If they really, truly want to bring attention to their cause, they can go to communities on their own time, not the NFL’s time or the fans time, and raise awareness by talking to cops and members of the black community. That would take too much effort. They would rather kneel.

I can't answer for those players who choose to kneel. Only they know in their heart if they are really serious. I'm just saying that regardless they should have the right to "protest". Like I said before I personally don't like seeing an American pro athlete taking a knee when the national anthem is played but I defend their right to do so.

@rightpride

Nfl players care more about the police killing unarmed black people than you care about school shootings

If you can be racist then they can kneel at football games

The union had better take this on in the next round of negotiations. I'm not sure about the current president, DeMaurice Smith. He said last time that he wouldn't give up a dime until the owners opened their books. They never did, yet he still gave concessions. Today's NFL players are not well enough informed on the importance of union solidarity. I hold retired players responsible for not doing more to educate them. I know they have enough on their plate too, between head trauma and not being compensated for their likenesses being used in video games, etc. I just hope retirees and current players aren't at odds with each other. These owners have enough money to go around for everyone. Former and current players have to stick together, not treat it like a zero sum game. Keep their eyes on the over-compensated owners who took the lion's share of what they gave their knees and brains for.

That's the spirit. You can't get more American than that, all though you can get more fascism with Trump and his traitors.

Firstly, let me remind you of the First Amendment.

Secondly, after 8 years of "real" fascism by the left liberals taking away religious rights, forcing nuns to provide condoms, not allowing to drink 16 oz coke, straws. Telling people what to eat or not to eat. Forcing people to pay penalty for a not so affordable health care, cheating in the democratic primaries, getting the answers from CNN in a debate......... I could write forever !!!

sat·ire: definition

The use of humor, irony, exaggeration, or ridicule to expose and criticize people's stupidity or vices, particularly in the context of contemporary politics and other topical issues.

The leftist liberals are the real bullies & traitors here. Since when am I not allowed to use satire.

It is obvious I do not want anyone to lose their jobs or the NFL to fold.
My point is if they continue on this stupidity of insulting their fan base they will fold and they will be the only ones to fault.

Is this American enough for you Giacomo !.

I think it is the Russians colluding to break up the NFL.

We should have another special counsel to investigate it !

Trump and his traitors you say:

OK- for Obama/Hillary to give 20% of U.S uranium to the Russians.
OK-for Obama/Kerry to give billions of dollars to the Iranians who are using it to kill Americans
OK- to leave Americans to die in Libya

Trump and his traitors you say:

Which candidate plays "proud to be an American" before each rallies and is fighting to keep American jobs from going abroad.

Other than lip service, Trump has done nothing to fight American jobs going abroad.

And, let's say he does actually do something to keep them here. Is he going to support unions? What happens if the coal companies decide to use part time labor to save money? Those jobs would be meaningless. Side hustles just like Uber. Nothing you could buy a house on.

Yes he has. Just the fact of lowering corporate tax, companies are more likely to invest here than abroad. He also got certain countries like Japan to invest billions in America.

But I guess people that live in fantasy land will never experience this realization.

What about the workers? Trump promised to help the workers, not just the companies. This means full time jobs. Strength in unions. Health benefits. Pensions.

I don't think anyone is going to experience your "realization" other than the top 1%.

@ciment

So u can insult nfl players but they cant "insult" you

You're not insulted, u just dont care about police brutality

Republicans are unpatriotic because they're conservative

The whole american dream is supposed to be liberal

If they stem the flow of immigration from places like Mexico, it means more jobs, higher wages, and a better standard of living for Americans.

These guys lower the standards for everyone else.

Anyone seen the movie "A Day Without a Mexican"?

All of the Mexican immigrants disappear. At first it seems like the ultimate dream scenario for right wingers. Then, it gets to the consequences of having no immigrant labor to draw from. A farmer hires a bunch of white people. Later in the day, he goes out to check on their progress, and finds that they're still putting on their sunscreen..

That’s great SC. I just clicked play thinking it was an old Dylan performance. Aside from the fact that Jimmy Fallon seems o be able to impersonate anyone, good lyrics.




TIS

Gotta love the line, "who by taking a knee are taking a stand".

@cookcounty

Of course the NFL players can insult me, whatever gave you that idea.

I do care about police brutality. Any police officer abusing their power should be charged to the fullest extend of the law no matter if your black, white, brown or yellow.
I just do not buy in fake news media and alleged victims that want to cry police brutality every five minutes.
I think it is over blown and has become political. Fake news media is just pandering to the leftist liberals. In this day and age it has become increasingly more and more difficult for police officers to abuse their powers due to media coverage, civil rights investigation,technology such as body cameras and witnesses with cell phones. Actually, I would be in favor for more cameras on street corners and buildings similar to that of the British.

The majority of police officers do their jobs properly. I never heard of any neighborhood that refused police protection. There are a few rotten ones and that is where the focus should be in identifying them and getting them off the streets and arrests.

I forgot to reply to the american dream is supposed to be liberal.
Are you referring to the liberal tent city, people urinating & defecating in the streets, increased food stamps and not so affordable healthcare where you can all choose your own doctor (?) and not allowing building & growth because some protected frog that farts the wrong way.

Hilarious.

It hasn't stopped them one bit.

Sadly.

I expected that answer from you.

Good one

On a lighter note, I think Jay Leno is twice as funny as Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, Stephen Colbert and Jon Stewart.

I really felt sorry for the way Leno was bullied in the media. That prick Kimmel even disrespected him on his own show over the Conan deal.

I agree, any officer abusing their power should be prosecuted and there are some wanna-be victims who claimed they were assaulted by officers, only to have their body camera footage show otherwise. Typical victimhood mentality, always crying wolf. However, they have been plenty of times were victims stated the police abused them and the footage showed that too. Just another reason I'm in favor of all officers being required to have body cameras as it'll protect both the police and citizens (well, hopefully anyway).




While this may be true that it is harder for police officers to hide their abuse of power, how many officers actually get convicted? How many even have charges brought against them? Again, I agree with you in that all officers who abuse their power should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law; however, the system is setup to protect the police IMO. Too many times has evidence come out and the officers got off. You can go all the way back to Rodney King and not much has changed since then. And in terms of more cameras on the streets, I am not in favor of that. Big Brother will exploit that and after what came out after Edward Snowden left the CIA, the spying going on by our government, the last thing they need is more surveillance.