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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: JCrusher]
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06/11/18 03:01 PM
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The McBratney hit was something out of the "Gang that couldn't shoot straight" How about one guy goes in, confirms the target and ensures there is no back exit out of the bar, and then they all patiently wait for him outside, do the deed and flee. It's not something I would be bragging about. Like all stories told by mobster's children the events seem to take on a life of their own. In ten years McBratney will be ten feet tall and breathing fire when our hero dispatched him to save the city from Godzilla.
Don Corleone, I'm gonna leave you now, because I know you are busy.
Sonny: Mickey Mantle? That's what you're upset about? Mantle makes $100,000 a year. How much does your father make? If your dad ever can't pay the rent and needs money, go ask Mickey Mantle. See what happens. Mickey Mantle don't care about you. Why care about him?
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: JCrusher]
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06/11/18 08:05 PM
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ChrisMcCarthy
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Yeah Junior mentioned that Raymond Patriarca would visit his grandson at the San military school junior was in and him and Gotti would apparently have meetings there JCrusher- The information the government used to knock out Cutler as Gotti's attorney was a tape from the Ravenite about communicating with Patriarca in the 1990's - I have the specifics in my piece I linked up on here. Also one of the killers of Favara was a Rhode Island mobster.
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
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06/11/18 10:32 PM
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jace
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Favara was slowly tortured, killed, and his family left without a body to mourn.
He wasn't driving negligently; it was a tragic accident.
There are countless articles online that contradict what you're saying. Favara had no loud parties, he was apologetic to the Gotti family, he was going to leave the neighborhood after repeated threats, and verbal and physical harassment primarily from Victoria.
I've read a couple of articles stating that John Gotti didn't actually want Favara dead, but finally gave in due to his wife's bizarre method of mourning.
Finally, do you honestly think a middle aged family man who worked for a living (unlike the Gotti family) would have the tendency to be having parties? Or the balls? I mean his neighbors were mobsters. I doubt he was that stupid.
Even if neighbors were intimidated into falling in line with Victoria, and I can't find the evidence for that, the fear of reprisals is a strong thing.
There are lots of innocent people hurt or affected by mob violence who don't want to talk to cops out of fear. Wrong, wrong, and more wrong. You just weighed in for the sake of it. No one knows for certain if Favara was tortured. The countless articles all come from one source, and what makes you say that people his age wouldn't have loud parties? As for the neighbors being intimidated into falling in line, you have nothing but your imagination to back up that, along with most. anything else that you put up on here. Favara was loud, obnoxious, and disrespectful. If he had acted the way a person should act after such a tragedy he would still be alive.
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
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06/12/18 10:11 AM
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
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06/13/18 10:59 AM
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sbhc
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I hope John Sr. is in a better mood than when his daughter visited him with the kids without any photos to give him, and when his grand kids told him they wanted to be basketball players. My goodness, that was a bad day to visit him. Remember when one of the grandkids is getting called a N1gger in school. Victoria's boys have that real dark swarthy southern Italian gene. John takes unbelievable offence to the suggestion and goes off on a racist tirade. He then threatens to cut the bullies tongue out and dump him in a barrel.
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
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06/13/18 04:36 PM
06/13/18 04:36 PM
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JCrusher
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Jace
No disrespect, but I think I'll take what the Feds say, and what neighbors who weren't mobbed up say, over you. You come across like you have an agenda.
Just to make it clear, even if Favara did have loud parties, unlikely as neighbors said he was an introverted person, that doesn't give the right for criminals to sadistically torture him like animals.
I've had bad things done to me in my life. I won't stab or shoot anyone over it, though.
Behaving rationally is what separates us from animals.
Great Post. I also wasn't trying to downgrade Jace's opinion at all. Im not gonna pretend I knew John Favara but from all I have read or heard he seemed like a regular decent man who was caught up in a very tragic accident against the wrong son. The ONLY people I have ever heard say anything bad about him so far is Victoria gotti sr, victoria gotti the daughter, and now Angel Gotti. Lets be honest the Gotti's don't exactly have a great track record of telling the truth. HOWEVER in this documentary Junior actually stated that he really liked the favara family and grew up hanging out with his son. Im not a fan of Junior at all but he has told the most truth over the years. I'll try to find it but there was a interview with Scott Favara(John Favara's son) and he talked about how sad it was that he didn't even have a gravestone to visit. He wasn't happy that Vicki Gotti smeared his father's name by basically calling him a monster. he also talks about how his mother really fell into poor health when her disappeared off the face of the earth. Supposedly Victoria Gotti harassed her at a supermarket in January 1981 after herhusband was already gone. They moved after that but still received death threats and even excretement on one occasion. Scott went on to be a cop.
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
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06/13/18 08:41 PM
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jace
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Even if they didn't go out of the way to torture Favara, he was dragged into a van by a bunch of gangsters. He knew his life was over at the point when they grabbed him, that is pretty much torture, IMHO. Especially considering he was a legit person, not a street guy.
witnesses say he begged too and called out to his Family. For years i thought willie boy angelo ruggiero and tony rampino abducted favara but somebody posted evidence that may be traced to rhode island did it as a favor to gotti B.S. on witnesses and that version. What witness?
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
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06/13/18 08:42 PM
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jace
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Jace
No disrespect, but I think I'll take what the Feds say, and what neighbors who weren't mobbed up say, over you. You come across like you have an agenda.
Just to make it clear, even if Favara did have loud parties, unlikely as neighbors said he was an introverted person, that doesn't give the right for criminals to sadistically torture him like animals.
I've had bad things done to me in my life. I won't stab or shoot anyone over it, though.
Behaving rationally is what separates us from animals. Of all the people on all the forums on the internet, you are the last one who should be saying anyone has an agenda.
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: bronx]
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06/14/18 11:09 AM
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Michael_Giovanni
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Wish I could've heard the conversation between Peter Gotti and John Jr. in that clip of them outside talking. Peter looked pissed off at Jr. and when Jr. is walking away he looks like his tail is between his legs.
Last edited by Michael_Giovanni; 06/14/18 11:20 AM.
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