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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: JCrusher]
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06/14/18 07:14 PM
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witnesses say he begged too and called out to his Family. For years i thought willie boy angelo ruggiero and tony rampino abducted favara but somebody posted evidence that may be traced to rhode island did it as a favor to gotti
If I remember right it was Capeci who wrote that he was yelling, "Please no! I have a wife and kids" or words to that effect.
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: DiLorenzo]
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06/14/18 07:36 PM
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i dvr last night giving it a watch now. jrs spinning the shit out of it. they couldnt tie my father to drugs but his little brother and best friend was. i could give 2shits but to act like john gotti was holy then thou and never touched drugs get the fuck out. ya he was the capo thats why he didnt touch the drugs but he knew. last thing at least theres no shit acting scenes its all stock footage or photos which is good. ya its jr sucking his dad off on a.e. but its ok get paid.
One thing is clear Gotti definetly knew about the drug dealing and profited from it which makes him responsible as the capo. Also they failed to mention that the main reason Angelo and gene had to resort to drug dealing was because Gotti pissed away the crews profits gambling There's no question Gotti knew they were dealing...In a normal interview, after junior said his father hated drugs and had nothing to do with it, the interviewer should have asked why Gotti didn't know anything about all the people around him dealing, and why he never did anything against them after he found out !! Very Good Point. Obviously the Gottis will always try to make their father look somewhat "noble" even though he wasn't at all. As for the drug dealing he obviously knew. Sal Ruggiero(Angelo's brother) was a well known drug dealer making a ton of money, plus Gotti top 2 soldiers in Angelo and gene were heavily involved. In fact like ive mentioned in the past a big reason why they really got into the drug business was because Gotti was a degenerate gamnler who pissed away a lot of their profits. Im not saying that was the main reason but both angelo and Gene mentioned it in wiretaps
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: pmac]
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06/15/18 02:00 AM
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john alite maybe one of the worst witnesses ever. final I spoke to him once. He is full of shit and couldn't speak about anything but Gotti Jr being a rat , showing me newspaper clips etc
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: jace]
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06/15/18 05:08 PM
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Jace
No disrespect, but I think I'll take what the Feds say, and what neighbors who weren't mobbed up say, over you. You come across like you have an agenda.
Just to make it clear, even if Favara did have loud parties, unlikely as neighbors said he was an introverted person, that doesn't give the right for criminals to sadistically torture him like animals.
I've had bad things done to me in my life. I won't stab or shoot anyone over it, though.
Behaving rationally is what separates us from animals. Of all the people on all the forums on the internet, you are the last one who should be saying anyone has an agenda. What agenda? That the mafia shouldn't be allowed kill innocent, law-abiding people willy-nilly?
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: bronx]
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06/15/18 05:16 PM
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Gotti Sr. absolutely knew about the drugs. How his kids can believe that he had no involvement is beyond me. They lose credibility on that issue.
Jr.'s comments on the DeCicco hit and his theory do not line up with what we know now. When Casso flipped to the Feds, Casso acknowledged ordering the hit, in concert with Chin Gigante, as retribution for Big Paul and for the failed hit on Casso. Casso and Chin knew Frankie was part of the Fist that took out Big Paul, and he was going to pay for it. They chose a bomb to make Gotti and the Gambino's think it was the Sicilian zips that did it since bombs were their signature. I think Al D'Arco confirmed these facts.
All the evidence points to Favarra being sorry and respectful. He was trying to leave the area because he knew his life was in danger. The Feds warned him and he didn't leave in time. In an earlier interview, Jr said about Favara, "my Dad probably had some involvement in it. If you hurt him, he was going to hurt you back". Favara knew who Gotti was, and was not going to poke that tiger in the eye.
The funny thing about Sr telling his grandkids to stay away from baseball because of the steroids is....that Jr was a steroid junkie.
One thing I believe about Jr was leaving the life. The government pursued him for his past crimes with weak evidence. Alite was a joke. His last name most def drove the government to go at him for as long as they did. Jr. was lucky to serve with what he got. He acknowledged that on the show, and that "the life" is shit.
Lastly, Jr is smarter than his old man. He took a plea, and walked away.
Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: TonyG]
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06/15/18 07:00 PM
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Gotti Sr. absolutely knew about the drugs. How his kids can believe that he had no involvement is beyond me. They lose credibility on that issue.
Jr.'s comments on the DeCicco hit and his theory do not line up with what we know now. When Casso flipped to the Feds, Casso acknowledged ordering the hit, in concert with Chin Gigante, as retribution for Big Paul and for the failed hit on Casso. Casso and Chin knew Frankie was part of the Fist that took out Big Paul, and he was going to pay for it. They chose a bomb to make Gotti and the Gambino's think it was the Sicilian zips that did it since bombs were their signature. I think Al D'Arco confirmed these facts.
All the evidence points to Favarra being sorry and respectful. He was trying to leave the area because he knew his life was in danger. The Feds warned him and he didn't leave in time. In an earlier interview, Jr said about Favara, "my Dad probably had some involvement in it. If you hurt him, he was going to hurt you back". Favara knew who Gotti was, and was not going to poke that tiger in the eye.
The funny thing about Sr telling his grandkids to stay away from baseball because of the steroids is....that Jr was a steroid junkie.
One thing I believe about Jr was leaving the life. The government pursued him for his past crimes with weak evidence. Alite was a joke. His last name most def drove the government to go at him for as long as they did. Jr. was lucky to serve with what he got. He acknowledged that on the show, and that "the life" is shit.
Lastly, Jr is smarter than his old man. He took a plea, and walked away.
This
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: bronx]
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06/15/18 07:08 PM
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Plea deals are for suckers..... just ask Gene Gotti.
"Whackin' the boss....another thing I get left out of."
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: pmac]
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06/15/18 07:25 PM
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That movie has to suck-you see how on the documentary junior says his father woke him up in the AM asking about the bar fight/stabbing in his robe telling Vicki his wife to shut her mouth but in the movie preview I saw they play the scene out at night and it Angelo Ruggiero that Gotti tells the keep it shut.....can't show the guy yelling at his wife. The movie poster says he's a god.....guy had balls I'll give u that but there's empty soda cans that stayed on the street longer than he did. Ps-I liked the HBO version...Assante killed it.
"Whackin' the boss....another thing I get left out of."
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: Michael_Giovanni]
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06/16/18 04:10 AM
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Thank u very MUCH for the link!! It works Took a few tries and initially I was about to give up. Thanks I appreciate it, was wanting to watch for a while And wow, Angel looks very different. Abit like Mickey rourke. Surgery gone wrong? She was attractive in the last Gotti doc. I know Vicky has had work done on her face
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: Mukremin]
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06/16/18 04:18 PM
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just noticed my name is on the credits that really is pretty cool tho. good work yeah love it  thanks man Muk you could probably make somewhat of a living or money on the side by helping out documentaries etc nice tho. Lucky bastard lol
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Re: NEW GOTTI SHOW ON TONIGHT
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
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06/16/18 10:46 PM
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Jace
No disrespect, but I think I'll take what the Feds say, and what neighbors who weren't mobbed up say, over you. You come across like you have an agenda.
Just to make it clear, even if Favara did have loud parties, unlikely as neighbors said he was an introverted person, that doesn't give the right for criminals to sadistically torture him like animals.
I've had bad things done to me in my life. I won't stab or shoot anyone over it, though.
Behaving rationally is what separates us from animals. Of all the people on all the forums on the internet, you are the last one who should be saying anyone has an agenda. What agenda? That the mafia shouldn't be allowed kill innocent, law-abiding people willy-nilly? What agenda?? Well, you attack anything said on the story that shows Gotti in anything resembling. positive light, as you do on every topic about t the mob. You want Joey Merlino in prison because his smile angers you for some reason (Maybe you're toothless.) Every time an alleged mob figure's death is announced, you make stupid and tasteless remarks about them.
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