Oh, they're here, too. Since SC booted a few of them the others have been quiet.

goddamn Trump trying to hire the illegals of this website and make them go to work on Blackhand wtf is that all about? racism much?

No, if you read what he actually said, he said "Nazi" not "Trump supporter" - SC made a fine point about politics, left or right. Let's get back on topic. Barney is a sneaky genius rich fuck

Yeah the posters at BH are just at a whole new level of researching. Pogo, Wiseguy, B, Chris Christie, Villain, the list goes on. Amazing researchers, not sure if they have other accounts on here.
I’m in no way a right wing guy, so I definitely disagree with certain members political views. But I don’t go there to discuss politics.

The GBB is not in any competition with The Black Hand or any other message board. It was never the intention of the GBB to be a hangout for organized crime fans but those fans keep coming here anyway. As long as they abide by the Board's rules (which I believe to be very fair) all are welcome here. It's really not nice that some discuss the other boards here on the GBB and it's somewhat disrespectful to the owner to have that done.

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I was thinking about Joe Bonanno's book, and his comments about how the mafia should have only allowed Sicilians, and that branching out with other groups and making it all about money would only hurt the organization in the long run. Barney Bellomo's solid Sicilian ancestry, his low key style and his success might support Bonanno's argument.

Barney had a lot of "uncles" in the life, plus he was an earner.

How do you think he retained the success of his family, though, Giacomo? In this day and age, when the mob is considered to be a shell of its former self. It seems the Genovese are the last of the mohicans of the mob's golden age.

Another thing, barney's of Sicilian heritage in a family that was traditionally Neapolitan. That's saying something with these provincial old-timers.

Luciano was Sicilian but it wasn't a source of pride for him or anything. After all, it was his idea to branch out with non-Italians and Jews and form a nationwide syndicate.

Yep, the story also goes that he wanted to get rid of the whole blood and fire ceremony, calling it antiquated. It supposedly was Lansky who told him to keep it because young men needed those traditions and rites of passage to be more committed to the organization / way of life..

vincent fish cafaro taped him with 2 old genovese guys in 1986 87 buying 2 kilos of herion. theres some good times articles on it. fish made bail or the fbi gave him a sneaky pass cause he was held without bail when he was indcited with fat tony in late 86 early 87. he got released and started wearing the recorder. he bought 2 kilos of dope im positive it was from barney and some old guy the general. they were all indicted but with good lawyers and fish saying he wouldnt testify against barney the case fell apart and they dropped the case it was airtight but without the tapes and the witness that recorded them i dont think they could procede. that was lucky for barney also it didnt put him in chins deal an die spot. i dont believe chin was a deal and die boss. castellano thought he believed in it

According to one researcher, I think it may have been Thom Jones or one of the contributors to onewal.com's 'writers of wrongs blog's 'Masseria had Jewish partners. IIRC an early informant told his SS handler that 'Masseria was laying low at one point because a Jewish partner he had had just been pinched'. Most of what we claim to know about the Prohibition era and pre Prohibition era is complete nonsense based on the actual info.

I believe it was the Godfather's docu that used to air on History channel all the time where the guy said he ran into Luciano at the airport in Naples. Luciano asked him to 'talk New York' with him. The guy asked Luciano what his dogs name was, to which he responds 'Bambie, I like fairy tales.' I've always wondered if he would have enjoyed how he has been turned into one.

Just about everything out about Luciano comes from The Last Testament, which researchers have all but confirmed is 90% bs. Don't get me wrong he is a interesting guy with a great history but people like us have more to do with the immortal status he has then he ever really did. Luciano and Capone are what got me into researching the Mafia, but once you understand the actual established facts compared to the legend its kind of a let down.

P.S. I ask posters who I believe can contribute to the bh to join all the time. Nothing against bb it's just the way it is. I'll say this about gbb tho, in all the years it has been in operation many forums have come and gone but gbb is still here. And always will be imo, it's a credit to Don Cardi for keeping this place going when others may have moved on by now.

Is this when he out ran the feds with $200g on him?

Very interesting.

It's a wonder why they didn't finish Lucky, though at the same time he had his uses so I can understand. In my opinion he contributed majorly to the decline of the Mob. He dealt in heroin, did business with outsiders. When you have greed like that you won't last as evident...

Especially when you don't have anything to commit to if they pulled the ceremony away. As Ralph said if there aren't rules then there's anarchy

i really wonder if he run things now or is it leo ?
also what about cirillo ? he is 90 if i remember correct which i guess he maybe consigliere or retired and maybe only give advice when
needed...
dichiara was the streets boss so probably someone took that position now that he passed away,
i wonder who that might be ? larry dentico ? ( he is too old too if i remember correct, so maybe he retired also) tuzzo ? antico ?
well that family is one big mystery that even scooby doo won't solve...

So Barney had his good friend/protege Ralph Cappola wacked back in 98 does anyone know about this and why he was killed?

That's what I thought.

That's hilarious if he really stated that, considering his role in bringing in the Calabrian Cotronis and Violi into his family and treating them with a great deal of respect.

He got accused of skimming/withholding money from the family.

Yaeh barney couldnt save his friend ralph. The orders came from whoever was the acting boss in 97 98(frank serpico??). Im guessing when he plead guilty the end of 96 he probaly lost his acting boss/street pistion an went to a capo. He was charged with ralphs murder and it fell apart. The government had conflicting wire taps by there own witness clearing barney and they still charged him anyway. He was indicted 2 or 3 other times after his first 10yr deal in 1997. Guess hes been lucky now, hes been a free man for like 10 yrs. There's 1 conflicting report some guy recorded that capo rooster from ct. And says to him in 2015" dan leo isnt letting anyone in to the family" . same guy who recorded merlino. forgot name . So maybe Dan leos the boss and barneys 2.

Thanks pmac wasn’t to sure how it all went down. I’d love to know more about Barney but there isn’t much out there about him and I’m sure that’s how he wants it

Yes but blackhand member consider the GBB forum and the members a joke and stupid so there competition.

They tried quite hard to get barney on the life instalment plan and failed. They usually reserve that plan for their power within the family and/or to make a statement

Frank Serpico was jealous of the younger big earners like Ralph, so he okayed the hit

This Barney was never involved in any drug trafficking...that was his double cousin Liborio T who is 4 years older. Often mistaken for each other.

No vincent cafaro who sponcerd this barney for induction recorded him in 87 buying 2 kilos of herion off him and 2 other old genovese guys theres a bunch of old times articles on it. Fish wore a wire and recorded it. Come to trial he wouldnt testify or flat out lied i forgot the lawyers got them off.

no it was the cousin...you can even see the the DOB of Liborio T on the indictment...Trust me. it was NOT this Barney. I am 1000% positive. The other guys you are referring to I know who you mean...but Liborio T was their partner not this guy..In 1988 the article even says Laborio Bellomo 33...ths Liborio was only 31. I made mistake they are 2 years apart always being confused with one another. The cousin was found guilty and served time for this. Liborio S Bellomo was arrested in 1996. prior to that he was arrested when he was 16. He was not arrested in the 1980's. this is a big mistake ppl go around saying.