Snoop forgave him. Made a video about it and now owns Death Row.

suge got dirty. i heard he had people raped

youd know wouldnt you tough guy

KNIGHT WATCH Suge Knight ‘could be
considered as a witness’ if Tupac criminal
trial takes place after gangster Keefe D’s home search

https://www.the-sun.com/news/8768136/suge-knight-considered-witness-potential-tupac-murder-trial/

The murders of Tupac and Biggie in my opinion were government operations. No way some street gangs or even record label executives could get away with two extremely high profile murders, they would've been convicted and under the jail by now.

I agree CIA may have used some gangbangers though.

Oh come on lol

In August 1996, the San Jose Mercury News initiated an extended series of articles linking the CIA’s “contra” army to the crack cocaine epidemic in Los Angeles.

The Contras did their own thing. They were not trafficking under the supervision of the CIA like so many of you conspiracy theorists seem to believe. They didn't do anything the CIA wanted them to do. They even tried to train them. You know what the Contras did? They left the training camp lol. Stop spewing bullshit. You're better than this

The CIA? The CIA!

You assholes

Right because the government doesn't traffic in drugs as well as engage in even more sinister evils, it's all a conspiracy theory.

Though I do consider the hits from those guys to be the last time rap produced anything listenable, those dipshits didn't need any help from the government in killing each other. I think Tupac had little big man's syndrome.

Until these murders are actually solved, I'm maintaining my position. I just find it hard to believe that some little ragtag gangbangers could pull this off and get away with it. They never even get away with simple murders on The First 48.

How many LA gangbanger murders went unsolved back in the day? And of those "solved", how many did they imprison the wrong guy?

Probably a lot, when bodies are dropping at that rate it's hard to keep up. But we're talking about two hugely notorious figures here. Worldwide notorious!

Yet still total nobodies compared to JFK.

Many people don't believe in the bullshit lone nut gunman story behind the JFK assassination either, and I'm one of them.

I didn't know but seems there is also a book implying it.

https://www.inquisitr.com/4054037/tupacs-murder-was-arranged-by-the-cia-new-book-claims

Exactly, don't look for this to ever be solved. Reminds me of how they say they have new leads into the whereabouts of Jimmy Hoffa every few years.

You could find a book implying anything. You seem to have a habit of putting whatever sexy scenario you find the most attractive into the Google search engine and immediately embracing whatever results you find, without even considering the possibility that the truth might be quite different.

It is almost nonsensical to even dignify with a response the suggestion that Tupac was killed for attempting to organize or unite the gangs. This is a man who literally got himself a MOB Piru tattoo in the months before his death, even though he had never grown up in Compton or done anything for that particular set. Are you familiar with LA gang politics? Do you know what it means to align yourself with a particular set? No one who is trying to establish unity or peace among the gangs for whatever nefarious purpose is in any hurry to get a gang tattoo, and they certainly aren't yelling MOB on record and wearing red clothing whenever they can.

Anyone who knows anything about Compton knows exactly who did this and why it was done. To suggest that the CIA recruited the South Side Crips to do this would sound insane to you if you were even remotely familiar with the backgrounds of these guys.

You are absolutely correct. I've been following this since before some of the people in here were born.



In the '80s and '90s, they got away with so many murders it would make your head spin. We're talking about an era where there were no smartphones, far fewer CCTV cameras and with quality that would make you laugh in this day and age.

When bodies are dropping at those rates it's hard to keep up with it all. Add to that the fact that many of them were lowlife gangbangers who weren't worth the resources. We're talking about the murder of two gigantic celebrity personalities here, if gang members did this the full wrath of law enforcement would've come down on them and they'd be convicted already. Just imagine the career advancements of everyone involved in solving these two cases. Like I said, it will never ever be solved because this is some higher level shit that is beyond our comprehension. See you again here in 2025 or 2028 or whenever the next time the media claims they have new leads lol.

How old were you in 1996? I remember the media coverage during that time. Tupac's death wasn't even featured on the front page of most major news outlets back then. The first responders had no idea who this man was, and even though Tupac had already sold millions of records at the time of his death, his legendary status wasn't cemented until after he had passed. That is an ice cold fact!

I know this may be hard for some people to grasp, but the government is not and has never been without it's flaws. You literally just accused them of engaging in drug trafficking. That would be considered a massive flaw by most reasonable human beings. To think they wouldn't be able to solve certain high profile homicides should not come as a surprise to anyone. After all, the government is made up of people like you and me.

Another thing worth mentioning is that Las Vegas Metro and the LAPD knew who was responsible, but knowing something does not necessarily mean you can prove it.

Why haven't they indicted Barney Bellomo yet? He is literally the most powerful LCN boss in the nation and he's been a free man since 2008. That's 15 years lol. Oh boy he must be super close to Biden

You are far more familiar with the scene G, so I take your words seriously. If you say so you are probably right.
Without real evidence the speculation will continue, maybe if there is a trial in the future and Suge starts to talk.

That's the thing, I don't think even Suge Knight knows. He could've used it as a bargaining chip to get out from under his 28-year sentence he's currently serving. And I see other people say that P-Diddy is responsible for both Tupac and Biggie deaths, I'm not buying that one either. But who knows.

G, what is your take on the hit on Wallace ? Some rogue LE guys were involved no?

Giacalone, I don't know about the Tupac and Biggie murders, but why are you so 100% sure that the government and the CIA would never traffic drugs? It's not like they were all saints or idealists, especially during the Cold War period. The governments are often dirty and "in bed" with criminal organizations when they have something to gain (not just the USA of course, I mean other countries as well). That's just human society, utopias don't exist unfortunately.

The problem is that most of the witnesses are dead. There is also no forensic evidence. What they do have are the words of Duane "Keefe D" Davis who has pretty much publicly admitted to have participated in the murder. As you might be aware of, it was his house that got searched recently. What they also have is a witness who was close to Suge who saw Keefe D and the South Side Crips parked in a vehicle outside the 662 shortly before the murder occurred. The most important witness would be Suge Knight, but will he talk? Suge has said many things about this over the years. Not longer after the murders he gave an interview to Vibe Magzine where he said that Tupac had told him that it was Baby Lane (Keefe D's nephew) who had shot him. In another interview, Suge talks about having seen the shooter himself. This might sound contradictory, but Suge has always had credibility issues himself. This is a problem.

I would not say there isn't any real evidence. There is evidence, but is it good enough? Perhaps the strongest piece of evidence is Keefe D's own proffer session that was recorded. Yes, he detailed the entire thing after he had been jammed up in a major drug sting that would have sent him away for life.

So why is Keefe D so important? Well, he is important because he's much more than Orlando Anderson's uncle. He is also someone who at one point was a major drug kingpin who provided West Coast security for Sean "Diddy" Combs and had a close business relationship with Comb's lifelong friend, Eric "Von Zip" Martin, a man the authorities allege was a major Harlem kingpin himself. Martin actually goes way back to the days of Melvin Combs who was Puffy's father. Melvin was a big time Harlem hustler.

Puffy can not deny this relationship. It was as real as the conversation we're having now. How can they prove this? Well, his own bodyguards have said it. Not to mention, Biggie's own Lil' Cease. And then we have Keefe's vehicle in Usher's video. We have them attending the same events. The circumstantial evidence is pretty thick and it's certainly not pointing to the CIA lol

So was Puffy involved? I believe it's very possible. It's tougher to prove though