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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
[Re: pmac]
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10/14/18 07:07 AM
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basciano hasnt been on the street for almost 15yrs. if this guy was that big a earner he was poached my new guess theory is he was under crea and his kids protection. all the lucheses get picked up like 18months ago all of a sudden this guy is getting robbed left n right. timeline fits Who robbed him? I don't recall reading about him getting burgled in any of the news reports.
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
[Re: Moe_Tilden]
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10/14/18 07:23 AM
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basciano hasnt been on the street for almost 15yrs. if this guy was that big a earner he was poached my new guess theory is he was under crea and his kids protection. all the lucheses get picked up like 18months ago all of a sudden this guy is getting robbed left n right. timeline fits Who robbed him? I don't recall reading about him getting burgled in any of the news reports. His house got robbed a year ago , and he was beaten up. Looks like it was all warnings. I wrote about that few pages before this one , that is why i think there is italian behind all this pulling strings , it was all classic mafia warnings
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
[Re: TheKillingJoke]
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10/14/18 07:26 AM
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When you take a look at how Scarpa got a kid killed for throwing eggs at his son's car in the 80's and now 30 years later a street gang is free to terrorize and make 100 attempted hits at a supposed high ranking associate, it shows how much things have changed. is there an article on this?
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
[Re: Strax]
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10/14/18 07:37 AM
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basciano hasnt been on the street for almost 15yrs. if this guy was that big a earner he was poached my new guess theory is he was under crea and his kids protection. all the lucheses get picked up like 18months ago all of a sudden this guy is getting robbed left n right. timeline fits Who robbed him? I don't recall reading about him getting burgled in any of the news reports. His house got robbed a year ago , and he was beaten up. Looks like it was all warnings. I wrote about that few pages before this one , that is why i think there is italian behind all this pulling strings , it was all classic mafia warnings Oh yeah. That rings a bell. The way I read it is that he ripped off other people so it wasn't a traditional random burglary, but as you say, rather a warning or message of some kind.
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
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10/14/18 07:41 AM
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What does the son do now is my question....does he roll over and give up those machines or stick the path....if it is a Family behind all this then there's no way he stands up....He sticks tight he must feel like he has some backing-no???
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
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10/14/18 07:59 AM
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When you take a look at how Scarpa got a kid killed for throwing eggs at his son's car in the 80's and now 30 years later a street gang is free to terrorize and make 100 attempted hits at a supposed high ranking associate, it shows how much things have changed. is there an article on this? The Scarpa thing? Bensonhurst told this story somewhere. He is very knowledgeable when it comes to Brooklyn.
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
[Re: Strax]
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10/14/18 08:06 AM
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When you take a look at how Scarpa got a kid killed for throwing eggs at his son's car in the 80's and now 30 years later a street gang is free to terrorize and make 100 attempted hits at a supposed high ranking associate, it shows how much things have changed. If you do something like that today,doesn't matter how powerful you are, you are a fool , and risking your current position & situation. You must remember that LCN is still strongest organized crime group in US, and they care only about the money , they were ready to whack a bunch of Albanians when that thing with Rudaj happened back in 2000's, and today families are doing much than they were in 2000;s Personally I still have my doubts with the "taking over" theory. I also don't get why the Albanians would hire a black street gang. Albanians certainly got the numbers in The Bronx and any serious Albanian gang usually prefers to handle shit using its own. Then I also always read there was never much love lost between the Albanians, African Americans, Dominicans and Puerto Ricans in The Bronx.
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
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10/14/18 08:29 AM
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Weren’t both the son and the father only associates and not actual made men? Isn’t it a little much to say the “mob is dead†if neither of them were actual formal members of the mob? What I mean is: Associates aren’t afforded the same protection as soldiers, right? So if an associate gets killed by someone outside of LCN it’s not that big of a deal (by comparison) right?
"It wasn't very good parsley to begin with, and then the cat went and peed on it." -Sicilian proverb
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
[Re: Strax]
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10/14/18 10:58 AM
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Personally I still have my doubts with the "taking over" theory. I also don't get why the Albanians would hire a black street gang. Albanians certainly got the numbers in The Bronx and any serious Albanian gang usually prefers to handle shit using its own. Then I also always read there was never much love lost between the Albanians, African Americans, Dominicans and Puerto Ricans in The Bronx.
Yeah i agree with you on that one,its unheard of Albanians using black man to do dirty work for them. They always use their own people. They were probably desperate to get it done.
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
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10/14/18 12:44 PM
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if it's albanians and the lcn won't retaliate then this is really means that only the westside are a real crime family (maybe the gambino's with cali might get stronger in the future) the rest are some sort of street gangs and a very weak family and if that's the case something need to be done maybe the westside and the gambino's will absorb them and then we will have 2 strong families who rule ny Genovese are more powerful than Gambinos. Even the Colombos that are considered weakest of the 5 families ,are more powerful than any other organization in New York. Frank Cali is very powerful man,especially that he is related to Sicilians in NY, they are "true" mafia,they are all related to each other ,close circles of people, no informants and A LOT of money.
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
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10/14/18 04:31 PM
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What about in Philly where you can brick a capos house and no one gets hit! We have no idea of what happened there though. Chances are it was an internal thing and there was a sit down. Also, retaliation usually isn't instantaneous like in the movies. It's usually months later when people think they're in the clear.
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
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10/14/18 04:37 PM
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brace yourselves
we’re about to experience Rudaj Over-Hype 2.0. Yup haha. Everyone is getting a little excited. The mob obviously is nowhere near what the used to be, but they are still a dominate force in NY and they'll still hit people if need be. So either these guys weren't protected or the Italians okay'd it/worked with Albanians/Bloods, or there will be some type of retaliation. Again, it's not going to be within days.
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Re: Zottola Whacked Today in the Bronx
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10/14/18 07:23 PM
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Right, and that could be some workload spill over for the feds too. They only have two squads for the 5 fams now, but back in 2011 when they cut it from 5 squads to 3, they merged the Bonanno and Colombo squad, and the Lucchese squad with Eastern Organized Crime. Since Zolotta was Lucchese associate might be why they were. The Gambino/Lucchese squad might be too tied up. Just a theory.
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