The Stidda expansed his activity and apart Palermo and his province,it stay in the other sicilian provinces and in north italy and maybe in Germany. It is less organized and structure than Cosa Nostra but more violent.

One of the leaders of the stiddari fled Italy in 1990 first to Germany later he lived in Toronto.

That was Giuseppe Benvenuto hiding in Toronto.

"According to their testimonies, Stidda was founded by former members of the Cosa Nostra during the Second Mafia War of the early 1980s. The original leaders of the Stidda were Giuseppe Croce Benvenuto and Salvatore Calafato."

Exactly.

This Is not China or Japan.

It wouldn’t make any sense to use these brand names for any other criminal societies or broadly as “mafia”. And we’ve all agreed that even using the term “mafia” broadly is in fact wrong.

The Triads have been called like that in America, unlike other ethnic mobs, it’s rare to read “Chinese Mafia”, same for the Yakuza.

Keep in mind that globalization (both criminal and non-criminal) it’s fairly recent. Triads came later than the Tongs.

And even though the Tongs have been active on American soil as early as the Mafia, it’s undeniable that impact and damage the Mafia had (and still has) in America (and throughout the Western world) is by far superior than whatever was and is caused these two subcultures.

They both operate mostly within their own communities and never managed (or wanted to) infiltrate the upper world like the LCN did. Unions, entertainment, service industry, construction and finance, ... Maybe locally in places with a high concentration of their own people (Hawaii, San Francisco)...

So it makes perfect sense that their “brand” names are more specific and not used as a broad generalization.

stidda is present only in a few towns of agrigento, ragusa and caltanissetta provinces and it had never been in palermo, trapani and eastern sicily
in trapani it was exterminated in a few months by corleonesi when it appeared
today it seems to be barely active, most what is left was absorbed by cosa nostra in the last decade
it has some crews in north italy and probably germany

m2w do you live in italy ? or are you italian ?
i ask that because you know a lot of things about the mafia

yes i'm italian and i live in italy

Also the American mafia.

I think there’s two terms: Mafia and mafia.

mafia - generic catch-all phrase for organized crime groups. Used as a simple, short way to describe a group of criminals, however loosely structured.

Mafia - as in “The Mafia” means specific Italian groups that have strict rules and formal membership and structures.

Meaning there may be “Russian mafia” but they won’t be recognized as equal members or peers by the Sicilian Mafia by other made members in Sicily. Whereas the Sicilian Mafia would recognize members of the Camorra, even if their organization names and structure are slightly different.

The media uses it in headlines like they use the word Mob. Mafiosi never use the word, although Buscetta used it when he began to talk to the magistrates.

The old time mafiosi used the word La Cosa Nostra (The Thing of Our) or the organization,the family etc because before the corleonesi reign,only who was made can use the word La Cosa Nostra and who use the world gave to himself an importance that in the facts never had was easly whacked.Now is more common and the 2 words La Cosa Nostra and Mafia are used as synonyms.

they started to use the word 'cosa nostra' in the 1950s influenced by american mafia, before it was nameless or called 'honoured society'
the turcoats salvatore d'amico in 1874 and melchiorre allegra in 1937 talked of a criminal sect, but it had not a real name

yaeh i dony know why this is 2 pages going. the mafia in usa invented organized crime almost 100yrs ago. i guess whoever is still a actual inducted member of the lcn will be having parades in 2028 would that be the 100 yrs anver...... in usa. which right or wrong is pretty cool for any group. fuck has any gang been around that long except the fucking free masons bullshit. hell angels must be like 50 60

b;oods m crips in la almost 50

No they didn't " invent" organized crime, the government did. Tongs been around equally or more. L.A mexican gangs as well. Hells Angels will be 71 or less. La Eme will be 60 , Chosen Few MC will be 59, and Mickey Cobras will be 68 or so.

Italian organized crime groups are bot the only crime groups that goes 100years and plus. You got chinese, japanese, irish, jews and maube others. The thongs is the name mafia.
Italian organized crime is probably the crime groups that influenced the most the general culture.

Again Yakuza & Triad are the oldest criminal collectives, perhaps even unknown African syndicates when you think of human civilizations ( shrugs).

you are wrong the oldest are italian mafia (camorra and sicilian mafia) and some triads started at the beginning of 1800 yakuza emerge at the bending of 1800 there are non at valide proof it exsisted before

It's been proven you just don't accept it for your reason.

black mafia family are knot organized crime. bmf doesn't exist anymoar, and they were nothing moar than a record label. they were called black mafia family entertainment. but bmf has been defunct since 2003, why even bring them up?

no lol i read tons books about his and aside speculations there are not valid proofs yakuza existed before ending of 1800
the oldest criminal groups still active are sicilian mafia camorra and some triads

h*ll's angels are knot organized crime either. their a corporation. they haven't been involved in crimes like selling dr*gs since the 70s. ppl hold on to this outdated image butlike yves lavigne said the modern day h*ll's angels are "born to be mild" their all about legit business nothing illegal. sory to ruin your fantasy or dreams of a sons of anarchy group,that's fiction

Of course there are differences between “Mafia” and Organized Crime. We’ve given plenty in the posts above.

Apparently not clearly enough.

I’ll try to sum it up in the simplest possible way:

- Mafia = McDonald’s

- Organized crime = hamburgers

...... (Facepalm) annnd we through here.

- Mafia= Sicilian Organized Crime
- Organized Crime= Worldwide crime groups/syndicates

Fin.

do you have valid proofs that yakuza was active in the early 1800s? i've never found it, post the sources if you have
the origins of the yakuza are uncertain it is not clear if the precursors are the bakuto,the tekiya, the kobuki mono or the machi yakko, there is not any written document that proof yakuza was active in the early and middle 1800, it emerged at the ending of 1800 and yamaguchi-gumi was founded in 1913; so italian mafia (at least camorra/sicialin mafia) and some triads seems to be older being active since early 1800s

italian mafia is the oldest group in the states still active
i doubt tongs are still active, and there are not irish and jewish groups started in 1800s still active, they disappeared

We literally had this discussion with BlackFamily already, he is the only one around claiming that Yakuza was active in early 1800's. Italian organized crime(Camorra & Sicilian Mafia) are the oldest organized crime groups.

....We're done with it this naunce. Y'all opinion and I'm leaving it alone.