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Re: This Guy Infiltrated Hollywood for the Mob
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Spilotro being sent out to Vegas to replace rather witty savants like Roselli, Greenbaum and Caifano might indicate that Chicago's insulated shadow boss system had some flaws. I can't imagine Accardo sending an animal like Spilotro out to oversee an operation as lucrative as that. I don't think he fully understood how much of an ass Spilotro was, and left the decision to his street bosses, Auippa or whoever else. Accardo was a sharp man who got rich and never spent a night in jail. Spilotro is an uncharacteristic choice for him. Had Accardo been more involved with day to day operations, the Vegas skim may have run smoother, and the midwest families might have been able to make a transition to other rackets in Vegas after the skim trial. The flipside to that however is that Accardo would have likely been caught in the dragnet of the skim case and would have died in prison, if law enforcement and informants could place him in meetings with the participants. Caifano was not a witty savant, he was Spilotro before Spilotro was Spilotro in Vegas. He was a muscle guy with a big temper, there is a famous incident where he went after a photographer who ended up knocking him out cold. Caifano spent a lot of time running around with Charles Delmonico, Charlie the Blade Tourine's son, who later became a capo in the Genovese family, extorting businessmen like Ray Ryan. Caifano like Spilotro was no deep thinker, he was a thug whose calling card was violence.
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Re: This Guy Infiltrated Hollywood for the Mob
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Spilotro being sent out to Vegas to replace rather witty savants like Roselli, Greenbaum and Caifano might indicate that Chicago's insulated shadow boss system had some flaws. I can't imagine Accardo sending an animal like Spilotro out to oversee an operation as lucrative as that. I don't think he fully understood how much of an ass Spilotro was, and left the decision to his street bosses, Auippa or whoever else. Accardo was a sharp man who got rich and never spent a night in jail. Spilotro is an uncharacteristic choice for him. Had Accardo been more involved with day to day operations, the Vegas skim may have run smoother, and the midwest families might have been able to make a transition to other rackets in Vegas after the skim trial. The flipside to that however is that Accardo would have likely been caught in the dragnet of the skim case and would have died in prison, if law enforcement and informants could place him in meetings with the participants. Accardo never spent a night in prison, but he did spend one night in jail: https://www.nytimes.com/1992/05/29/...gure-in-mob-world-dies-in-bed-at-86.html
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Re: This Guy Infiltrated Hollywood for the Mob
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I Read that Roselli was Close To Al Capone . And Tony Accardo Envy Him Over it .  This was Fratianno's account of a conversation he had with Roselli. I take a lot of what Fratianno said with a grain of salt, especially his chest thumping about how scared Jews in LA were of Italians, but I don't think he had any reason to lie about Roselli and Accardo. I'm sure Roselli told him these things about Accardo. edit: I think this was a wiretapped conversation between Fratianno and Roselli. So, yes, Roselli definitely said these things.
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Re: This Guy Infiltrated Hollywood for the Mob
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FYI Rosselli , upon arrival to New York, with his Mother from Italy,boarded a train and headed to Boston moving in with his Father in an apartment in the Maverick Square section of East Boston, Massachusetts . A few years later the family moved to Somerville Mass. Again they moved back to East Boston. He did time in the Billerica House of Corrections for selling morphine. PAGE 14 https://www.amazon.com/dp/031256668...&ie=UTF8&qid=1542732896&sr=1
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Cincotti said: "They don't have the scruples that we have." Zannino agreed. "You know how I knew they weren't Italiano? When they bombed the fucking house. We don't do that."
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Re: This Guy Infiltrated Hollywood for the Mob
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He did time in the Billerica House of Corrections for selling morphine. That might explain the reason on why the feds constantly asked for files from the fbn if Roselli was ever involved in the dope business
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