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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 04:22 PM
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I appreciate your post but Giovanni Gambino is a Nobody... I know, his father was the real deal though. Whose His Father..? This guy tells more stories than Mr. Rogers..
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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First 48 hours are crucial.
Possible this never gets solved.
Unless a rat talks down the road.
Is Jo Jo Corozzo still around? Yes He's still around
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 04:34 PM
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You think Gene took a page out of his brothers book and whacked the boss?... im leaning towards the Sicilians ... but thats going off of zero information. take a page out of John's so 2 official bosses dead in 1 week persico and cali. mike nose is free this week so is his underboss and consig after walking out of court today not guilty. pretty note worthy Does anyone think Genie was a little pissed.. Yeah Mikey ...but does @ his age Gene have the bother or the balls 2 take a page out of John's book?
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 04:35 PM
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That he was killed in front of wife and childeren is not weird happens all the time maybe not in the US in the recent past but maybe times are changing in NY. it's typical, nothing strange, the best for a secretive guy like cali and a city full of cameras like ny, the murder was very professional, probably zips just see the difference with zottola one, they used blacks and they got arrested, i doubt they catch this killer in a short period The theme of killing someone at their home seems to be quite popular in Canada, Nicolo Rizzuto Sr, Joe Di Maulo, Angelo Musitano, Cece Luppino, Al Iavarone, etc. This Cali hit seems to follow that pattern. The Canada theory is very legit.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 04:36 PM
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That he was killed in front of wife and childeren is not weird happens all the time maybe not in the US in the recent past but maybe times are changing in NY. it's typical, nothing strange, the best for a secretive guy like cali and a city full of cameras like ny, the murder was very professional, probably zips just see the difference with zottola one, they used blacks and they got arrested, i doubt they catch this killer in a short period Yeah thats what im saying, i am sure its Sicilians because he is involved with Inzerillos
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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With the way the LE is in the US, I'm having a hard time believing that this would be internal or American LCN related. This is either coming from Canada or Italy, and seeing how Cali has Sicilian connections and the Gambinos doing business with mobsters from Toronto, Canada seems like a good candidate here. This possibly all goes back to drug trafficking/distribution. I think it's best for American mobsters to get out of the drug game and stick to safer routes like construction and gambling. I get that LCN isn't as violent as it used to be, but at the end of the day, it is a criminal organization and the guys in the life will put in work if they have to or have something big to gain. With risk comes reward. There's been numerous incidents of violence recently, especially in NY. I think it's a power play move within the Gambinos. Older American Gambinos are behind this, I bet. Zips don't drive pickup trucks. ZERO chance this is random or a road rage incident.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 04:59 PM
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 05:04 PM
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If it’s a Gambino thing then that’s it they will handle there own.
Now guys are saying other countries or guys from other countries “ you are talking something way way different !
You are talking the five families and what ever is left in America going at these guys .... that shit would be personal and you would get young recruits coming out of the woodwork to get in a family to get at these guys ....
I don’t think none of them are stupid enough to take a shot at a American family......that would be stupid .... talking about killing business ..... guys would do everything to get them and there rackets .
Even people on the edge would be looking for pay back .... I would not doubt guys taking random shots At known members of International crew. If the hit came from out of country, there's not much that can be done. The American LE is so up these guys that they don't have that kind of freedom, not to mention they would not even know who to hit, as this could be from Sicily, Calabria, Toronto, or Montreal. Killing a guy this big is most like not internal. Its probably a message for them to get out of the drug game. If it’s a Gambino thing then that’s it they will handle there own.
Now guys are saying other countries or guys from other countries “ you are talking something way way different !
You are talking the five families and what ever is left in America going at these guys .... that shit would be personal and you would get young recruits coming out of the woodwork to get in a family to get at these guys ....
I don’t think none of them are stupid enough to take a shot at a American family......that would be stupid .... talking about killing business ..... guys would do everything to get them and there rackets . The type of car being driven here is irrelevant, it's completely possible that this hit came from multiple layers. In Canada we see most of the hits being carried by associates rather than actual family members.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 05:24 PM
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Is that his daughter?..Hot chick w/ nice rack..just sayin' Not his daughter. This is her Twitter: https://twitter.com/MicheleBellNYAnd yes, she is thicc as fuck.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 05:35 PM
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It's hard to believe they would move on Cali without wanting Cefalu out also. He's been the boss for what 8-9 years? and Cefalu is a ghost, who's even seen a recent picture of the guy.
I still say it's Joseph Corozzo, his bother (Nick) and Gene. They are stupid enough and probably figured with Cali gone Cefalu would step down and the three of them would take over, Jo Jo, Nick and Gene. I had that theory in the back of my mind too. Its plausible. Think Daniel Marino another old timer fit into this theory too?
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 05:39 PM
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Wouldn't put my money on the West Side either, but you know...as was stated before, they're not cowboys but when they do kill they make massive statements. maybe it was approved by the commission I wouldn't rule out anything, but I won't put up theories of my own either. When Zottola got whacked I shrugged it off when some posters were mentioning Albanians or the UBN. And who turned out to be involved? Both the Albanians and the UBN lol (even though I still feel there's something or someone else pulling the strings). Just goes to show that anything is possible these days.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 05:48 PM
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It's hard to believe they would move on Cali without wanting Cefalu out also. He's been the boss for what 8-9 years? and Cefalu is a ghost, who's even seen a recent picture of the guy.
I still say it's Joseph Corozzo, his bother (Nick) and Gene. They are stupid enough and probably figured with Cali gone Cefalu would step down and the three of them would take over, Jo Jo, Nick and Gene. This makes the most sense. Gotti just did 29 years standing on his head. Cali was the muscle and they figured Cefalu will easily step down if told to.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 05:49 PM
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Shocking that the boss of a major crime family wouldn't have more security around his house. Forget cameras. I would think bulletproof windows, doors, and body guards permanently stationed there.
Cali most likely didn't even know someone was out to get him or this wouldn't have happened. This is why I would doubt it is anything to do with the coke bust a few days before. If that had happened and Cali was any way culpable or vulnerable or responsible he wouldn't be going outside like that in the night time. I just don't see it. And to stretch that theory, if there was a threat from Canada or anywhere else further afield then the same applies, he would surely be very aware of it and take precautions. If I had to place a wager on who it is I'd say it would be from inside the Gambino's, I think the theory about the younger American guys wanting to take back the family from the zips makes sense. Cali might not have been boss on his own but by all reports, he held a lot of sway on either side of the pond and was the go to guy. Hitting someone like that would send a big message.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/15/19 05:50 PM
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I would rule out anything to do with Canada. I don't think many Canadian OC members want to get extradited to the US. I wouldn't rule that out. The brutality of the hit is typical Canadian. There's a war going on in Ontario now and the Gambinos are active over there and they seemed to have played a role in the Montreal mob war too. Perhaps Cali was stirring things up over there and some of the groups there had enough of it and wanted to make a statement. The old Rizzuto group might be desperate enough to pull off something like this with all the hits they endured themselves with New York most likely sanctioning these attacks since they are all part of the same organization (LCN). Perhaps they felt they had nothing to lose. Just thinking out loud here. There's no denying how similar this hit is with many in Montreal and now in Hamilton. Mobsters getting killed in front of their home seems to be the norm there nowadays.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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