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Re: Frank Cali Shot
[Re: spartan]
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03/16/19 07:51 PM
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This wasn't an OC hit.
None of the other NYC families would have done this. And the Gambinos are stable and making money, so highly unlikely it was internal.
As for Canada, Cali had good contacts in Toronto and Montreal and Canadian mobsters don't like messing around in the USA because of potential jail time. Cali has travelled to Canada many times. If they wanted to hit him, they would have lured him to Canada.
Regarding the drug seizure, the Latin Americans only give drugs "on credit" to Calabrians, so any drug shipment Cali would be involved with was paid in cash in advance. If he was "guaranteeing" passage for someone else's drugs, and the drugs were seized, he wouldn't have been hit a few days later. He would have been given time to pay or make a deal.
And in Sicily, Cali was respected and things are calm. The Mafia in Sicily is making money again and things are relatively peaceful. Plus, if they were going to do a hit, it would be much more professional than this.
As I said in earlier posts, I am still shocked Cali didn't have better protection. He was the boss of a pretty large organization. It's very sloppy not to have the proper security.
And if the Gambinos are proper OC, the shooter should be dead by the end of the month. If Vito Rizzuto was shot by some 24 year old nobody, and that nobody was caught, the nobody would be dead within a week. If the gov't put them in PC, it would just take longer, but they would be nothing but a zombie, a dead man walking. I agree with what everything that you said except the security part. No American LCN boss, aside from maybe Al Capone, had around the clock security if there was no war going on. Frank Costello, Giancana, and Vito Genovese to name a few never traveled with a body guard let alone had one at their house 24-7. Tommy Billotti didn't live at Paul Castellano's house, the Chin walked around Greenwich Village alone with his daughter sometimes, and Vito Genovese spent a lot of time alone tending to his garden in Atlantic Highlands by himself. With there being fewer organized crime hits now there is less of a need than ever to have security around a boss, if anything it would draw attention to them that they don't want, the last thing that they want now is to be noticed. As far as retaliation, it doubt that anything happens, and there is precedent for that. Carmine Sciandra, not a boss but Paul Castellano's nephew and a Gambino captain, was shot in the stomach in a domestic dispute in 2005 at one of his Top Tomato stores on SI. From what I know the guy who did the shooting didn't even leave Staten Island. https://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/14/nyregion/from-our-family-to-yours-bang.htmlMurder and really violence of any kind are bad for business, and if something were to happen to this guy or the guy who shot Carmine Sciandra, LE would be on the Gambinos in a heart beat. This isn't Canada where you can get convicted for a murder and be out in 10 to 15 years or even sooner.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
[Re: mbo]
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03/16/19 08:23 PM
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To be honest this feels kinda anti climactic. Don’t get me wrong killing is never something to root for, but a mob hit on a Gambino Boss would be extremely interesting.... then if it turns out to be just a nobody with a gun and a grudge it is not so interesting anymore.... but it will be interesting to see what happens to this kid! If a young kid can kill a boss without any repercussions then it would a sad day for the LCN. He will last a while in the system and then he will get stabbed in prison for some bs. He will be dead before his 30th birthday, mark my words.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/16/19 08:43 PM
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We all had crazy theories , and it ends up like this... I think it was the Rothschilds or the Rockefellers. Maybe he was about to expose the Illuminati. This kid is probably just a patsy, like Sirhan Sirhan and Lee Harvey Oswald.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
[Re: Beenaround]
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03/16/19 10:01 PM
03/16/19 10:01 PM
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“Was he acting alone? Was he acting for other people? What was the motive? I simply, standing here in front of you, do not have all of the answers,†said Shea, chief of detectives. “These are all the questions we will pursue to make sure working with the prosecutors we have anyone responsible for this incident held to justice.â€
Shea said police think Comello is the shooter but the investigation is far from over.
Comello was described as having limited previous contact with the NYPD, Shea said, but he would not be specific. Comello once exhibited strange behavior in a federal courthouse that prompted law enforcement to check him out, The New York Times reported without providing specifics.
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Re: Frank Cali Shot
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03/16/19 10:13 PM
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so there might be a chance of him being sent by someone ? i find that hard to believe now
but it's officially the strangest mob hit ever
so i won't be surprised by any new info at that point The police chief said more. “We are well aware of Mr. Cali’s past,†he added. “That will be part of this investigation as we determine the motive… there are multiple angles we are still exploring…The priority was getting the individual responsible for the murder off the street.†He added: “Let me reiterate, this is far from over.â€
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