Is Angelo spata capo now?

I posted years back Carmine was not the Carmine you all see in pictures.....he was a old man and the last few years he had nothing to do with anything other then daughters and grandchildren going to see him .

It must be ten years since the families went to see him and some of the guys that were close ,they would all go down south near him and golf and fish and even had there boats there but that been years only close family has been there lately.

I don’t know but after Allie got life it kind of changed for what I gathered.

He won’t last if they do .... look at his record....even his cousins and he has a lot in the life we’re not close to him only a few would even go out with him.

To appease the persico clan im sure teddy would have a high position. Throw some slander around i bet michael was inductes before he started his prison sentence for being loyal to the colombo family since he was a kid. Probaly goes straight into tommy Gambino type retirement once hes freed

The farese guy who was consig is married to allie boy sr. Daughter. He must also be in the fold

I read an article about Angelo spata that said when he was an associate, he got busted with a group and all of them had sweet plea deals and because Angelo didn't accept his deal it canceled everyone else's, they said he was allowed to do this because he was apart of the persico clan; that's a lot of power for an associate. So I believe an persico loyalist is pulling the strings.


Remember, theirs rumors that Michael persico was inducted years earlier, it's possible he could have been a capo that was direct with the boss and when he get out he could be admin.

Whistling toe tapping, eyes rolling !!!

I dig your style...lol

Is it possible that for the first time in a long time we have or will have 4 of the 5 official bosses on the streets concurrently?

Sonny fransese was on tape in 2006 saying michael was super important he wouldnt go into detail with the guy taping him cause he was only a associate. Greg scarpa said he was made in the late 80tys . I think he is. Chins kid is the one who just went to prison. Kids super rich. Atleast persico made his own money from real estate to bagels and limos. Hes made i say. The spata guy was released by mikey scars as a gift to allie boy. Guess hes married to a daughter of carmines

Yep and if amuso dies 5

Yes same name as Allie’s daughter......Carmine ‘s brother Allie that is.

They don’t have zips per say in the family....but they have been bringing blood over and for many years .....now don’t blow this out of proportion just saying they have lots of family you don’t know about.

And they also have a lot of blood males that are in early twenties and mid twenties that were teens back last time the family was really looked into.

It doesn't matter what the other four families think, it's none of their business, it's Colombo business. Carmine appoints who ever he wants to replace him and we all know he'll chose Allie.

Neo you may be right. Im thinking the family would reject carmines decision to choose his son whose doing life and been in jail since 99. Hes been in 20yrs now. Even if carmine tried to i dont think the family capos would listen. They definitely choose a new official boss after snakes death. Will be finding out soon when the next indictment comes down.

Quick search of bop. Andy russo been a free man sknce 2013 hes currently 85yrs old. I dont know depending on his health and mind. Hes been the strongest capo in the colombo family in the last 20yrs maybe will bill could have given him a threat. But theres no other guy in there family with his type of respect. He had the power according to the feds to induct that guy larry sessa in a prison cell. Back in 2011. He probaly was boss back then.

Shit I forgot Allie has been away for that long. 20 years is a long time. Okay realistically Carmine would have to consider someone else.

The capo's don't get to chose an official boss, the previous boss chooses his successor. There is a reason Peter Gotti is still the official boss of the Gambino family, if in name only, it's called Cosa Nostra rules and only a boss can choose his successor. The Gambino's got around that rule by electing a "acting" boss while excluding Peter Gotti in all family decisions.

Yeah I'm picking Andy as well and he was probably the boss back in 2011. Carmine possibly made him boss shortly after Allie got sent away.

20yrs off the street his powers gone. Hes probaly in a book club and president of the gin rummy club .

Runs the 2 for 1 from canteen

Yep. Allie went away when he was still relatively young in his mid-40's. I hope it was all worth it.

Makes you wonder. Hes a smart guy everone says, after the first mistrial in the wild bill murder trial did he ask his lawyers to try a plea maybe 15yrs or something. I bet he thought about it. He had a dream team of NYC mafia lawyers. They could have got it done. Jack deross got a bad deal. Hr was convicted just because he took wild bills place as underboss. He didnt order the murder 1. Hes not the boss or acting boss. Weve learned tommy gioeli got the order and his crew did the work. How they convicted deross is a head scratcher. He new about it sure but is that murder??

They were both convicted with little to none ..... Jackie was because he asked for something Wild Bill had that was the families, it was the times when they were convicting everyone in the mob .....the people now are wise to Governments shit.

The government doesn’t like the Persico’s name and will do anything to get them and that’s why Teddy will be set up so fast if boss .

If Allie and Jackie were on trial now Jackie would get off and Allie would of pleaded out to 7-10 years.

Jackie lawyer should have been more forthcoming. But i think he was old school and told his lawyer dont admit shit. Today the lawyer would have started with yes jackie is a member of the mafia there will be countless witnesses who tell you this . Theyll also tell you he wasnt the boss of the family who can only order another members murder. He was a soldier and capo making money for his wife n kids but thats it. Blah blah blah ect.

And he would have won. The lawyer would admit to saying jackie was sent to wild bills wife to get his loan sharking book and tell the jury what a foul human wild bill was. Why you think he was named wild bill he had many enemies all over nyc ect. Im bored . Case closed

The lawyer should also say the boss sent him to the wifes house or else hed be killed. Take out the d.a.s case

Moe would be here talking abunch of shit about this defense but it true. Hed get off in this day

You can't throw the boss under the bus like that and why in the hell was an undergoes was sent to collect a book??? I don't think Allie boy was too smart

True but the attorney wouldn’t word shit like we do and it happens all the time, then there Jackie being family.

Some rumors or infos from the mob experts on who is the new boss?

How differently can an attorney word it?

"Somebody else...I'm not saying who.....just somebody else.....sent word to my client to visit Mr Cutolo's wife and collect his shy book."

There is only so many people that can order a capo (at the time) like DeRoss to do something. One is Allie and the other is Cutolo (who obviously was dead at that point).