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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
[Re: Strax]
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10/08/18 07:20 PM
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Is that pointing at Springfield, Missouri? Because the closest thing to the mafia there is the federal medical prison there where all the sick mobsters go to die, like Gotti, etc.
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
[Re: Strax]
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10/08/18 07:23 PM
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Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.
I wonder how old these maps are?
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
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Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.
I wonder how old these maps are? Pretty new , around 2012.They are still present,most of them keep very low profile. When i find Australia , South America and EU maps i will post them. I have them somewhere on my old pc
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
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10/08/18 07:40 PM
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How are you gonna list Altoona, PA but not Buffalo, NY or Cleveland, OH? This map is very flawed, albeit detailed.
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
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10/08/18 07:46 PM
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How are you gonna list Altoona, PA but not Buffalo, NY or Cleveland, OH? This map is very flawed, albeit detailed. These are Italian/Sicilian based groups not Italian American.
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
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10/09/18 03:24 AM
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Is that pointing at Springfield, Missouri? Because the closest thing to the mafia there is the federal medical prison there where all the sick mobsters go to die, like Gotti, etc. That's probably what they're talking about. Any Italian speakers here actually know if it says that? I'm sure they mean there's a presence in the prison there. In Springfield prison died many mobsters like Corallo,Langella,Gotti ecc. And anyway Strax,this are the maps that posted years ago and should be update.Iml'm trying to find more updated charts.
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
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10/09/18 12:15 PM
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You know something about Camorra / Licciardi clan - Chicago entry ? The son-in-law of Gennaro Licciardi and the Massa brothers are living in Chicago. Really? Do you refer to Gennaro Esposito? And who are this Massa brothers? No Mario Vittoriosi. Antonio and Carmine Massa have a few fashion stores in the city. All counterfeit ofcourse.
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
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10/15/18 09:25 AM
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The Springfield IL entry is clearly a mistake, geographically and organization-wise.
Springfield MA is the city the author should have pointed out.
Terrible screw up implying that the Cava and Graziano clans are Sicilians. They’re obviously Camorra.
We all know the connections that particular Genovese crew has to Campania. Emilio Fusco is from Quindici and the majority of alleged members and associates in Springfield (Calvanese, the Santaniellos, the Manzis, etc...) can trace their roots in the same inland rural areas of Campania (Avellino). In the map they are singned as camorra clans they are right Its funny both clans are located there because in their hometown there was a big feud between Cava and Graziano even the women were involved in shootouts.
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
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10/15/18 10:38 AM
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My bad.
Springfield MA is an interesting spot. I’m wondering what are the actual connections between the local crew and the clans overseas other than the fact that many of the alleged members’ ancestors emigrated from that region. 'Ndrangheta cells from all over the world , all of them answer to clans from San Luca. They can't do anything without consulting main clans ,and bigger stuff are decided by annual meeting(Il Crimine) As for Sicilians in New York , like i already said , they are "true" mafia, all related to each other , no rats , and A LOT of money. They are very poweful
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
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Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.
I wonder how old these maps are? Yeah the claims that Ontario is controlled by ´ndrangheta is inacurate. They are the most powerful for sure
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
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Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.
I wonder how old these maps are? Yeah the claims that Ontario is controlled by ´ndrangheta is inacurate. They are the most powerful for sure Yes, but there are also several Cosa Nostra families, Caruana-Cuntrera, Rizzuto, Arcuri, Modica, Scarcella, Inzerillo.
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
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11/18/19 11:57 AM
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Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.
I wonder how old these maps are? Yeah the claims that Ontario is controlled by ´ndrangheta is inacurate. They are the most powerful for sure Yes, but there are also several Cosa Nostra families, Caruana-Cuntrera, Rizzuto, Arcuri, Modica, Scarcella, Inzerillo. Scarcella retired modica crew has been defunct since he got deported in 2006 alphonso caruana has been in jail since 1999 and his partners joe cuntrera and his uncle left for italy permanently last year after their homes were repeatedly firebombed and the rizzuto crew is gone as well
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Re: Italian Mafia Map(USA & Canada)
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11/18/19 12:03 PM
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Also, amazing how many Sicilian groups are listed as being in Toronto, because we never hear about them anymore. Also, we never seem to hear about the Camorra anywhere in Canada.
I wonder how old these maps are? It's because most of siciliano groups are defunct
Last edited by Bobbybacala; 11/18/19 12:04 PM.
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