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If you could ask one question #980142
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If you could ask Francis Coppola one question about the Trilogy, what would it be?

Mine would be: Who killed the Tahoe shooters?

Yours?

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Re: If you could ask one question [Re: Turnbull] #980153
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In the book, Michael asserts:

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Tom, don't let anybody kid you. It's all personal, every bit of business. Every piece of shit every man has to eat every day of his life is personal. They call it business. OK. But it's personal as hell. You know where I learned that from? The Don. My old man. The Godfather. If a bolt of lightning hit a friend of his the old man would take it personal. He took my going into the Marines personal. That's what makes him great. The Great Don. He takes everything personal Like God. He knows every feather that falls from the tail of a sparrow or however the hell it goes? Right? And you know something? Accidents don't happen to people who take accidents as a personal insult.


In The Godfather movie, Sonny accuses Michael of taking things personal, and Michael just responds, "It's not personal, Sonny. It's strictly business."

The first speech sets Michael apart from the others. It also foreshadows Vito's "bolt of lightning" speech at the peace conference. You could certainly edit out some of the passage, but why change it to the opposite sentiment?

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Why didn't he pay fair money to Robert Duvall to reprise Tom, make a decent Godfather 3?

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Re: If you could ask one question [Re: Turnbull] #980164
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Who opened the drapes?

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Re: If you could ask one question [Re: Turnbull] #980171
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How did Kay get the abortion?
Re: If you could ask one question [Re: Turnbull] #980218
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Why did Michael tell Fredo "Hyman Roth will never see the New Year"
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Originally Posted by Evita
Why didn't he pay fair money to Robert Duvall to reprise Tom, make a decent Godfather 3?
Robert Duvall On Not Being In The Godfather III | Larry King Now | Ora.TV
Robert Duvall tells Larry King why he turned down The Godfather III and how Francis Ford Coppola came to his farm to ask if he'd be in the film but left caring more about Duvall's mother's crab cake recipe than the movie

Robert Duvall-Seth Meyers interview
Duvall was only asking for "fair money" indeed Duvall felt the pay gap between Al Pacino and him was unacceptable
Re: If you could ask one question [Re: Kangaroo Don] #980609
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How could Coppola not see Tom Hagen worth
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Re: If you could ask one question [Re: Turnbull] #981480
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Originally Posted by Turnbull
If you could ask Francis Coppola one question about the Trilogy, what would it be?

Mine would be: Who killed the Tahoe shooters?

Yours?

The answer to that question would probably also be the answer to mine: Who opened the drapes?

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Re: If you could ask one question [Re: olivant] #981482
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Probably not

Tahoe shooters? Third shooter drapes? Fredo
Re: If you could ask one question [Re: Turnbull] #981525
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If his script for The Conversation influenced GF2, so that some of the ambiguity in GF2 was intentional rather than the result of multiple rewrites and extensive editing.

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Originally Posted by mustachepete
If his script for The Conversation influenced GF2, so that some of the ambiguity in GF2 was intentional rather than the result of multiple rewrites and extensive editing.


That makes more sense than some explanations.

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Re: If you could ask one question [Re: Turnbull] #981846
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Good points Capri and Pete

Answer to Who killed the Tahoe shooters? Who opened the drapes? is probably not the same

ambiguity in GF2 was intentional or not, is the fuel that keeps any thread going, keeping the board active Still fun to flesh out nearly half a century on, why we are still conversing
Re: If you could ask one question [Re: Trojan] #981911
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Was Fredo guilty? It's probably the most volatile question we've ever had here. Over and over and over. So why not ask Francis? I think Puzo would have said no. Just my personal opinion. Because he was so family minded. But Coppola might be more objective, especially almost a half century after these films were made.

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How and where did the Tartaglia’s meet and team up with Sollatzo?

I feel I know why....the drugs but where and how could have fed into a interesting story line.

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Re: If you could ask one question [Re: Turnbull] #981997
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I think a lot of the answers we'd get would be disappointing - "directorial license," "we never thought anyone would notice, " etc.

Rather than facts, I'd be interested to hear FFC confirm or deny (or just react to) some of the more abstract theories posters here have come up with (e.g. the Neri/Rocco rivalry).

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Originally Posted by The Last Woltz
I think a lot of the answers we'd get would be disappointing - "directorial license," "we never thought anyone would notice, " etc.

Rather than facts, I'd be interested to hear FFC confirm or deny (or just react to) some of the more abstract theories posters here have come up with (e.g. the Neri/Rocco rivalry).


I agree Woltz. However, FFC's reactions could end up creating even more questions, consternation, etc.

How' bout them Steelers!

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Originally Posted by olivant
Originally Posted by The Last Woltz
I think a lot of the answers we'd get would be disappointing - "directorial license," "we never thought anyone would notice, " etc.

Rather than facts, I'd be interested to hear FFC confirm or deny (or just react to) some of the more abstract theories posters here have come up with (e.g. the Neri/Rocco rivalry).


I agree Woltz. However, FFC's reactions could end up creating even more questions, consternation, etc.

How' bout them Steelers!


Yeah, how about them Steelers! Anyone who still thinks Tomlin is a bad coach doesn't have a leg to stand on.

Anyway, I don't know enough about FFC to guess whether he'd be amused or annoyed by the existence of this board and its dissection of the minutiae of the Trilogy. I'd like to think the former.

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Re: If you could ask one question [Re: Turnbull] #982059
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I think Coppola might answer a lot of questions, "Oh, wasn't that made clear?"

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He didn't know then, doesn't know now and following this board closely for answers
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Originally Posted by mustachepete
I think Coppola might answer a lot of questions, "Oh, wasn't that made clear?"


What would be helpful Pete is if FFC would release all of the Trilogy's film that never made into onto screen. Doing so would probably provide answers to alot of our questions.

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Originally Posted by pizzaboy
Was Fredo guilty? It's probably the most volatile question we've ever had here. Over and over and over. So why not ask Francis? I think Puzo would have said no. Just my personal opinion. Because he was so family minded. But Coppola might be more objective, especially almost a half century after these films were made.

My two cents worth!

No doubt Fredo was guilty of something that significantly contributed to the Tahoe shooting

Can't see him killing the Tahoe shooters so the little help could be opening the drapes
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Originally Posted by The Last Woltz
I think a lot of the answers we'd get would be disappointing - "directorial license," "we never thought anyone would notice, " etc.

Rather than facts, I'd be interested to hear FFC confirm or deny (or just react to) some of the more abstract theories posters here have come up with (e.g. the Neri/Rocco rivalry).

e.g. Michael blamed Tom for much of the Corleone's misfortunes
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Originally Posted by Turnbull
If you could ask Francis Coppola one question about the Trilogy, what would it be?

Mine would be: Who killed the Tahoe shooters?

Yours?



Why was Turnbull a good man? wink


Seriously though, mine would also be Who Killed The Tahoe Shooters


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Originally Posted by mustachepete
If his script for The Conversation influenced GF2, so that some of the ambiguity in GF2 was intentional rather than the result of multiple rewrites and extensive editing.
Now you tell us!
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Originally Posted by Evita
Originally Posted by pizzaboy
Was Fredo guilty? It's probably the most volatile question we've ever had here. Over and over and over. So why not ask Francis? I think Puzo would have said no. Just my personal opinion. Because he was so family minded. But Coppola might be more objective, especially almost a half century after these films were made.

My two cents worth!

No doubt Fredo was guilty of something that significantly contributed to the Tahoe shooting

Can't see him killing the Tahoe shooters so the little help could be opening the drapes
My take, for what it is worth!

The most plausible culprit could be Fredo as even if Fredo was seen in Michael and Kay's bedroom, Fredo would not have raised any suspicions
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Originally Posted by Evita
Originally Posted by The Last Woltz
Rather than facts, I'd be interested to hear FFC confirm or deny (or just react to) some of the more abstract theories posters here have come up with (e.g. the Neri/Rocco rivalry).

e.g. Michael blamed Tom for much of the Corleone's misfortunes
e.g: 1. the Neri/Rocco rivalry
e.g: 2. Michael blamed Tom for much of the Corleone's misfortunes
e.g: 3. Roth's murder at the Airport was Rocco's suicide mission
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If you could go back in time what would you do differently in Godfather 3 to ensure that it lived up to its expectations?

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Also, does anyone think that Michael and his brothers went through the traditional ceremony to be made or was it just something that was understood amongst their peers?
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