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Interesting article about Gotti and Corozzo #983446
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https://www.cosanostranews.com/2019/12/root-cause-of-nicky-corozzos-rivalry.html?m=1

The Gotti and Corozzo rivalry is talked about in the very beginning of the article.

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Those Ruggiano articles are worth checking out

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It’s funny the Corozzo/Gotti rivalry has gone back a long time. I do remember Ruggiano had an issue with Gene Gotti being made before his protege Corozzo so Neil agreed to sponsor Corozzo and Ruggiano later agreed to Sponsor John Gotti.

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Does anyone know where their rivalry really stems from? I know they’re both from Brooklyn and both were on the rise at the same time. But what made Gotti the faster riser when Corozzo seems to have been a better earner? Such a good earner in.fact that Gotti decided not to kill him when he became boss.

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Originally Posted by Revis_Knicks
Does anyone know where their rivalry really stems from? I know they’re both from Brooklyn and both were on the rise at the same time. But what made Gotti the faster riser when Corozzo seems to have been a better earner? Such a good earner in.fact that Gotti decided not to kill him when he became boss.

I gotta be honest I don't know the whole reason why their rivalry happened. Corozzo got made before him in April 1977. Technically Gotti was still in prison otherwise he probably would of have been made earlier but who knows. yes Gotti did rise faster mostly because of Fatico and Neil. Around the time when Gotti finally got released and made in October 1977 the Fatico brothers were going through trials so they wanted to take a step back, which opened the door for Gotti to take over that crew. Also Neil has control over certain crews. Although Paul didnt make Gotti an "official" capo of the bergin crew he was only technically an acting captain for a number of years which pissed off gotti even though he still controlled the crew. When gotti became boss there were a number of guys who weren't thrilled like Nicky and Joe Butch. I dunno if Gotti ever thought about killing them because that might have started a war within the family. Like I aid I don't know the whole story of why they had heat but I do know t kind of went back to their inductions

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I think I read a while ago that Corozzo’s ancestors came from northern Italy but I could be wrong. If that is the case however, could that have anything to do with him moving slower than Gotti?

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[When gotti became boss there were a number of guys who weren't thrilled like Nicky and Joe Butch. I dunno if Gotti ever thought about killing them because that might have started a war within the family. Like I aid I don't know the whole story of why they had heat but I do know t kind of went back to their inductions
Good point. They had a lot more support than Castellano did. I seriously doubt Gotti would have wanted to deal with that fallout. He steered clear of DeMeo for years for that very reason.


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[When gotti became boss there were a number of guys who weren't thrilled like Nicky and Joe Butch. I dunno if Gotti ever thought about killing them because that might have started a war within the family. Like I aid I don't know the whole story of why they had heat but I do know t kind of went back to their inductions
Good point. They had a lot more support than Castellano did. I seriously doubt Gotti would have wanted to deal with that fallout. He steered clear of DeMeo for years for that very reason.

That could’ve been crazy both Gotti boys and DeMeo crew were ruthless crazy f*ucks


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[When gotti became boss there were a number of guys who weren't thrilled like Nicky and Joe Butch. I dunno if Gotti ever thought about killing them because that might have started a war within the family. Like I aid I don't know the whole story of why they had heat but I do know t kind of went back to their inductions
Good point. They had a lot more support than Castellano did. I seriously doubt Gotti would have wanted to deal with that fallout. He steered clear of DeMeo for years for that very reason.

That could’ve been crazy both Gotti boys and DeMeo crew were ruthless crazy f*ucks

can’t compare the Bergin crew to the Demeo crew. Gotti screw was tough but the Demeo crew was feared by everyone in the mob in NY

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Originally Posted by pizzaboy
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[When gotti became boss there were a number of guys who weren't thrilled like Nicky and Joe Butch. I dunno if Gotti ever thought about killing them because that might have started a war within the family. Like I aid I don't know the whole story of why they had heat but I do know t kind of went back to their inductions
Good point. They had a lot more support than Castellano did. I seriously doubt Gotti would have wanted to deal with that fallout. He steered clear of DeMeo for years for that very reason.


Very true. By the way it’s great to see you Pizzaboy!!! . Anyway yes I agree Gotti liked to steer clear of any trouble. He also made peace with Anthony Casso because he was scared of getting into a war with him after everything that happened between them in 86

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[When gotti became boss there were a number of guys who weren't thrilled like Nicky and Joe Butch. I dunno if Gotti ever thought about killing them because that might have started a war within the family. Like I aid I don't know the whole story of why they had heat but I do know t kind of went back to their inductions
Good point. They had a lot more support than Castellano did. I seriously doubt Gotti would have wanted to deal with that fallout. He steered clear of DeMeo for years for that very reason.


Very true. By the way it’s great to see you Pizzaboy!!! . Anyway yes I agree Gotti liked to steer clear of any trouble. He also made peace with Anthony Casso because he was scared of getting into a war with him after everything that happened between them in 86

Thanks, bud.


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Gregory Scarpa was Northern Italian, if I remember correctly. I think he may have had to endure some prejudice while coming up, as a result, prior to becoming the Grim Reaper.

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There have always been a few northern italians involved in Italy as well as US and Canada. Most famous in Europe was Francesco Turatello born in Veneto region but he had the right connections through Frank Coppola, also known as "Frankie Three Fingers". He was Coppola's godson.


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Gregory Scarpa was Northern Italian, if I remember correctly. I think he may have had to endure some prejudice while coming up, as a result, prior to becoming the Grim Reaper.


That’s correct. Sicilians and southern Calabrese were the majority in the american mafia at one point early on but in general southern Italians were always involved. Northern Italians were a minority but some still thrived in organized crime like Scapra and Canterino despite prejudice early on.

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
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[When gotti became boss there were a number of guys who weren't thrilled like Nicky and Joe Butch. I dunno if Gotti ever thought about killing them because that might have started a war within the family. Like I aid I don't know the whole story of why they had heat but I do know t kind of went back to their inductions
Good point. They had a lot more support than Castellano did. I seriously doubt Gotti would have wanted to deal with that fallout. He steered clear of DeMeo for years for that very reason.

That could’ve been crazy both Gotti boys and DeMeo crew were ruthless crazy f*ucks

can’t compare the Bergin crew to the Demeo crew. Gotti screw was tough but the Demeo crew was feared by everyone in the mob in NY


From what I have read, I think the Gemini crew and the Cherry Hill Gambinos were the toughest crews out there. I think you could add Casso’s crew as well.

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
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[When gotti became boss there were a number of guys who weren't thrilled like Nicky and Joe Butch. I dunno if Gotti ever thought about killing them because that might have started a war within the family. Like I aid I don't know the whole story of why they had heat but I do know t kind of went back to their inductions
Good point. They had a lot more support than Castellano did. I seriously doubt Gotti would have wanted to deal with that fallout. He steered clear of DeMeo for years for that very reason.


Very true. By the way it’s great to see you Pizzaboy!!! . Anyway yes I agree Gotti liked to steer clear of any trouble. He also made peace with Anthony Casso because he was scared of getting into a war with him after everything that happened between them in 86


I didn’t know that Gotti made peace with Casso. I was also very surprised to learn that he backed down from Casso like he did with all of the fire power that he had in the Gambino family at that time.

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Gotti was tough but he did fear certain people and Casso was one of them. I still don’t know for sure if he really wanted Casso to be hit in 1986. Angelo Ruggiero and Casso hated eachother and after Casso said that Angelo was an idiot Angelo wanted to kill him because he was a hothead. Now obviously Gotti has to of known about it but he was also in jail at the time. But once it failed a Gotti sure as hell did everything he could to make peace with Casso. Casso still ended up killing Eddie Libo in 1990

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
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[When gotti became boss there were a number of guys who weren't thrilled like Nicky and Joe Butch. I dunno if Gotti ever thought about killing them because that might have started a war within the family. Like I aid I don't know the whole story of why they had heat but I do know t kind of went back to their inductions
Good point. They had a lot more support than Castellano did. I seriously doubt Gotti would have wanted to deal with that fallout. He steered clear of DeMeo for years for that very reason.

That could’ve been crazy both Gotti boys and DeMeo crew were ruthless crazy f*ucks

can’t compare the Bergin crew to the Demeo crew. Gotti screw was tough but the Demeo crew was feared by everyone in the mob in NY

i wonder what the chin and fat tony salerno thought about roy and his crew

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
Gotti was tough but he did fear certain people and Casso was one of them. I still don’t know for sure if he really wanted Casso to be hit in 1986. Angelo Ruggiero and Casso hated eachother and after Casso said that Angelo was an idiot Angelo wanted to kill him because he was a hothead. Now obviously Gotti has to of known about it but he was also in jail at the time. But once it failed a Gotti sure as hell did everything he could to make peace with Casso. Casso still ended up killing Eddie Libo in 1990


Casso was pretty crazy when it came to killing people. Whether it was ordering it or doing it by his own hand. Maybe that’s why Gotti didn’t want a war with him. Ruggiero was in too high of a position it seems. I know he was Gotti’s best friend but I never hear about him being competent.

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They probably looked at them as psychopaths. Did the Genovese family have a crew that was feared on that level? I’m sure they did because I really believe that most crews respected each other and didn’t really fear one another.

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Originally Posted by Revis_Knicks
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Gotti was tough but he did fear certain people and Casso was one of them. I still don’t know for sure if he really wanted Casso to be hit in 1986. Angelo Ruggiero and Casso hated eachother and after Casso said that Angelo was an idiot Angelo wanted to kill him because he was a hothead. Now obviously Gotti has to of known about it but he was also in jail at the time. But once it failed a Gotti sure as hell did everything he could to make peace with Casso. Casso still ended up killing Eddie Libo in 1990


Casso was pretty crazy when it came to killing people. Whether it was ordering it or doing it by his own hand. Maybe that’s why Gotti didn’t want a war with him. Ruggiero was in too high of a position it seems. I know he was Gotti’s best friend but I never hear about him being competent.



You are so fucking dumb everyone is crazy when they are killing people the Gotti family is a bunch of white trash you wish that you could hook up with those ugly fucking hags retard.

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I don’t think Gotti was fearful of Corozzo but I think there’s a possibility he may have been threatened by him. Has Sammy ever talked about Corozzo?

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Are you really that dumb that shut up you retard look up people like Fat Tony or Gerry Catena that is what scumb bagas asipre to not ugly hores that couldn't get picked up at a bar in a Syosett.

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Rough week there huh pal?

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I believe Gotti feared; or was atleast weary of Nino Gaggi.


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I believe Gotti feared; or was atleast weary of Nino Gaggi.


I think so too. There’s not much info on Gaggi from what I’ve seen. Just that he was involved with DeMeo.

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I think John was also wary of the Cherry Hill Gambinos. The way I’ve seen people talk about them on here it seems like they ran their own family and nobody would mess with them.

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Originally Posted by Zavattoni
I believe Gotti feared; or was atleast weary of Nino Gaggi.

. Gaggi was the real deal as far as being a tough gangster. Even when he became capo he still went on hits(The eppolitos and George Bynum murders). I don’t have much information on the relationship between Gotti and Gaggi during the 70s and early 80s

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Originally Posted by JCrusher
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I believe Gotti feared; or was atleast weary of Nino Gaggi.

. Gaggi was the real deal as far as being a tough gangster. Even when he became capo he still went on hits(The eppolitos and George Bynum murders). I don’t have much information on the relationship between Gotti and Gaggi during the 70s and early 80s

Atleast from what I read from Murder Machine, Nino was close to the Gambino hierarchy since the 1950s

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Originally Posted by pizzaboy
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[When gotti became boss there were a number of guys who weren't thrilled like Nicky and Joe Butch. I dunno if Gotti ever thought about killing them because that might have started a war within the family. Like I aid I don't know the whole story of why they had heat but I do know t kind of went back to their inductions
Good point. They had a lot more support than Castellano did. I seriously doubt Gotti would have wanted to deal with that fallout. He steered clear of DeMeo for years for that very reason.


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