yes there was an informant in the ursino cocaine importation case.
the prison system in Canada more specifically ontario and quebec is a joke making it easy for criminals to continue to operate while inside.
most recently being mom boucher continuing to collect a street tax while imprisoned(magot/mastiff case 2015.)
jeffrey colegrove a drug import/export leader w/ links to shane maloney and the west end gang was busted 2019.

now i know this is also the case around the world but the justice system in Canada almost never tack on more time for these operations.
also seeing as oc members have better lawyers and more money w/ overcrowding and 1/3 time served sentencing they tend to get released after serving a shorter sentence.
i doubt desjardins stays in jail until 2023.

desjardins would have had the ability to operate but most of those once loyal r dead or also imprisoned.

and as far as mom boucher being kicked out of H.A. he may have turned in patch but this has long been a ploy to take away attention.
the presumed #1 H.A. in all of quebec mario brouillette no longer wears a patch.

This is some interesting information, the shorter time and earlier releases, does seem to provide a fertile ground for violence.

Mom Boucher was voted out of HA in March 2014, if it was a ploy, it would appear Boucher is still working/ loyal to those he has always been. Nomads 95? Woolley? Rizzuto?

It was explained to me that the bond between Nomads HA 95, essentially HA and Rizzuto was Nicolò JR, with Mom being close with Vito.

It also includes Walter Stadnik, who was a 95 Nomad and National President of HA in Canada. I believe Stadnik was charged with running a book in prison.
People in Hamilton/Canada were not excited for Nurget’s return, as early as February 2014, panic was setting in.

Something to do with the uncertainty related to the crooked cop Benoît Roberge, and the suicide of 95 Nomad HA Rene Charlebois.

Violi/Luppino how does any/all of this related to them, if at all??

the connection w/ Rizzutos and 95 nomads? ended w/arrest/ imprisonment in 2001/2002 of H.A. et. al .

In June 2014, there was also a case of drug trafficking that involved people who were tied to Giuseppe De Vito, one of them Marco Campellone was on probation when he was shot dead in 2015.

the first phase of arrests for project clemenza june 2014.
nicola dimarco,ali awada.alessandro sucapane,massimo paparelli et al....

The weakest example, I’m comfortable sharing is the arrest of Rizzuto and Boucher in 2015. Although Rizzuto was released and never charged, it was Boucher ordering a hit on Desjardins. Almost a decade and a half, after being arrested, targeting the man who many believe is behind the attack on Rizzuto. This might help, why did Boucher target Desjardins?

The loyalty from the Hells vs Rock Machine war, never ends for some of the participants. With all the murders and such, it’s hard to consider those that are loyal to each other. In any business, even narcotics, success requires loyalty.

boucher will never leave prison alive.
the earliest he can even apply for parole is 2037 which will be denied.
boucher is housed in canada's only supermax prison ste anne des plaines.
but this prison is not a colorado like supermax prisoners move freely with each other making it easy to commit murders inside.
boucher agreed to kill desjardins to maintain his street tax in hochelaga maisoneuve neighborhood.
seeing as he is not getting out may as well do a hit to stay on good terms with those in power on the outside.
andre sauvageau was responsible for collection of street tax in hoch mais he has since died 2018 i think was arrested in magot/mastiff 2015.

Thanks man, it’s the sentiment of most people I talk with, if you’re doing life, taking someone’s means little.

In the States, even prison is big business, I’m pretty sure you can trade their stocks.

So was Desjardins attempting to take Boucher’s turf? I have friends who were in Montreal around Canada day in Montreal 2014, when they came back states side, all they were talking was Nomads95, being Mom voted out and Nurgets release, Rizzuto plans prior to death, and Hamilton.

the many court cases in MTL over the last few years have shown no evidence of desjardins trying to take territory from boucher.
or desjardins since his imprisonment having any influence on the street.

Fair enough, chatter on the streets and other places these things get discussed.

A lot has/had to do with HA vs Rock Machine, it’s like it never ended. But who knows now??

Sal Cazzetta was in prison when that war was happening and was Rock Machine, nows he’s free and a HA. Boucher was free during the war and HA, now he’s in prison voted of out HA.

Most of those guys would be 60 plus I think, Norman Robitaille and Donald Stockford both 95Nomads in their 40’s still, both were released to half house in TO. Stockford is also from Hamilton and I believe Robitialle was the closest with Nicolo Jr, this, has been suggested to me, played into Magi and Demarce Joseph being killed. Insurance policy left by Rizzuto, in case he wasn’t around to collect Vendetta on them.

If so, it’s impossible to think this doesn’t bleed into everything else business related since.

most of former rock machine patched over to H.A. paul porter,salvatore brunetti(allied w/antonio mucci &carmine antonio vanelli),gilles lambert to name a few.
the rock machine has been trying to make a return in qc and parts of eastern ontario but seem to have internal disputes as to who is in charge.

Right on, the RCMP was also heavily involved with guys like Dany Kane and Aime Simard, during the war. As well as guys like Steve Gault, I think his name is, after the Patch Over of Ontario.

Online gambling and Legal Weed, on top of the usual markets that were fought over originally, now, may be just as important. Some of those RCMP are now in positions to profit via legitimate Weed Companies, getting the contracts from the Government, thats the racket, I guess similar to construction. More than likely worth murdering for, huge profit available.

Also, the attempted hit on Desjardins was also part of Rizzuto insurance policy for Vendetta.

Diego Serrano bust was also in 2015, he was sentenced to four years, six months in 2018. So he is out now with time already served.

serrano was sentenced jan.15,2018 to 4yrs 6 mths on cocaine importation charges.

Wow! He is out already, could be another ingredient to the current stability in that ecosystem.

you would think this guy would just give up 3 time cocaine loser.

Lol, another example of what you were explaining, regarding the Canada Justice System. I don’t believe anyone gets out in America with three cocaine convictions, it’s kind unbelievable, but believable lol

Some additional info I was able to garnish, regarding Hamilton as a nexus, for contraband flowing to Canada and USA side of the borders.

It appears there is a Casino in Niagara Falls, Canada, self implies money, demand for entertainment, women etc. Also near Detroit and Windsor is a reservation called Wapole, it is like a canoe ride to cross the border.

In the past, Hamilton was very popular for Strip Clubs, travelling and working the Niagara Falls or Toronto was common. I don’t think Hamilton has any Strip Clubs, if a dancer was popular, it could create a climate, that could generate lots of money.

The Casino, is a climate where, demand for dancers, etc, tends to always high. Getting supply from the USA side of the border as well, creates a high priced market. Also, requires working partnerships.

Distribution routes and access points aka logistics, regardless of product, are coveted.

There are three big casinos in Niagara Falls, two on the Canadian side and one on the American. Niagara Falls in general reminds me of a mini Atlantic city. The casinos are nice and maybe one or two streets then the area directly outside it is kinda a shithole, and it’s a small city that almost solely relies on tourism. There are a lot of drugs and vice there, and some high roller go to the casinos as well. It’s like Atlantic city toned down a bit.

Also close to Hamilton buffalo and Toronto, bigger cities, just like Atlantic city is not too far from philly, nyc, so a lot of people from those cities go there.

Cool stuff, thanks. I had no idea it was such a draw for so many different people, from a lot of different places.

Definitely adds to the dynamics of all that has happened.

the various mafia groups in ontario have never been able to get a foothold in the casinos in niagara falls.
they along w/ ont. based H.A. definitely supply n.falls w/ drugs, prostitutes,loansharking etc..
the majority of the control of gambling is done through online sports betting sites.
the 2 most recent examples which were both connected were the june 2019 and dec 2019 (i think) gambling busts of the figliomeni cell and the barletta H.A. london ontario.

Fair enough, I believe you are correct about those bust being gambling related.

Also the HA killed in March/April 2019 in Mississauga, I believe is gambling related as well, he was supposedly a debt collector. He was murdered by individuals out of Quebec, as is the trend.

The overlooked tie to gambling is Michael Degroote, billionaire from Hamilton. He was in a Casino deal with members of Rizzuto in Ontario, it appears Degroote’s group has done some interesting business tactics, to take control of the Casino in the Dominican, and even got one brother thrown in a Dominican jail.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HAa3EiRZm_8

Video of Rizzuto in the Dominican Casino in summer of 2013.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=euUsMvExKwI

michael deabaitua-schulde murdered mar.11,2019 was a full patch member of the H.A. niagara falls chapter.
from articles i have read it sounds like a dispute between H.A. in london chapter/southern ontario and the sherbrooke chapter from qc.
there have long been ties between the 2 chapters as sherbrooke helped to create chapter in 2003.
possibly part of same conflict that got the ottawa nomads chapter closed w/ released senior H.A. in qc wanting territory back??

Are John Papalia's brothers Frank, Rocco and Dominic, half-brothers Joseph, Angelo and brother in law Tony Pugliese still around?

I think they all have passed on, Frank Papalia died in the first quarter of 2014. I believe Tony Pugliese was married to the Papalia sister, Antonetta she passed away in 2018.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.2615254

Thanks they probably had a lot of offspring.

Np bro, I am pretty sure there are lots of descendants, I don’t believe John Papalia had any children.

The people that I have/do know are/were Dinosauro long time ago lol, never heard of any of the children getting into the business.

They might have tho, I’m not sure.

Article about one of the MMA Cops, he is tied to HA via Iron Tiger Muay Thai/ House of Champions, the trainer at that club Alin Halamagean is high level HA associate in Hamilton.

https://www.stcatharinesstandard.ca...wenkftlddkc1ytb7s8qfjwomc5v86z25hrojomy8