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Re: Ralph Natale Valuetainment Interview
[Re: The_Marble_Guy]
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06/04/20 12:24 PM
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I havent watched this either. Just decided to share. I watched the intro and was sorta turned off TBH. Idk why he chose to have this guy on his show. Esp after everyone hes been having on. This is a downgrade .
" If you're going to be bad, be good at it "
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Re: Ralph Natale Valuetainment Interview
[Re: hoodlum]
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06/04/20 02:31 PM
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Actually very comical...tall tales told ..I wouldn't mind sitting next 2 him on a barstool 4 entertainment only. Yes it was, very comical.
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Re: Ralph Natale Valuetainment Interview
[Re: The_Marble_Guy]
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06/04/20 04:48 PM
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eastsideofvan
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This was just plain sad. From the emphasis in his responses I believe *he* really believes the bull shit he is spouting off. He's been lying for so long he's convinced himself in his age and senility.
They should refer to this condition as "Kuklinski Syndrome" other known sufferers are Frank Sheeran and in the most advanced case ever recorded, Tom Papania.
Last edited by eastsideofvan; 06/04/20 04:49 PM.
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Re: Ralph Natale Valuetainment Interview
[Re: The_Marble_Guy]
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06/04/20 06:28 PM
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I watched this video this man is crazy as hell
From now on, nothing goes down unless I'm involved. No blackjack no dope deals, no nothing. A nickel bag gets sold in the park, I want in. You guys got fat while everybody starved on the street. Now it's my turn.
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Re: Ralph Natale Valuetainment Interview
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06/05/20 05:24 AM
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I havent watched it yet and dont know if I will because I suspect it will mainly be Science-Fiction tales...... This is a genuine question, and I mean no disrespect, but why is this guy's story "science fiction tales" but not every other informant's story? I suppose the big difference would be in what he talks about and how he talks about it. Everything he says pretty much is about how great he is, how feared he was, how much the old timers respected him and how hated everyone else was. And he keeps adding new claims. He's not alone in these regards, you see people like Michael Franzese or Frank Culotta do the same, but Natale takes it to the next degree. The perfect example of that is when he flips in 1999 he tells the police that Joey Merlino made him in 1994 and immediately promoted him to boss. Now that's incredibly rare but, ultimately, believable. Philadelphia only had a handful of active members on the street at that point so just in the process of rebuilding the hierarchy it will require making guys so you can promote them to high-ranking positions - similar thing happened with the DeCavalcantes in the early-2000s. But now, years after all the trials are over, when he's no longer reliant on sticking to what he told the feds back then, he makes up some story about how he was made at a private ceremony back in the day attended only by Carlo Gambino and Angelo Bruno and that no-one else knew about it. He even says in this interview that he 'forgot' to tell Merlino about it, which was why he put him through the ceremony. If you're going to make somebody but not introduce him as made to anyone else in the family then what's the point of making him?
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Re: Ralph Natale Valuetainment Interview
[Re: The_Marble_Guy]
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06/05/20 05:27 AM
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Yea like this guy would forget to tell people Carlo and Angelo made him. Anyone who listens to him for five minutes would know by the way he makes himself out he would have told any who would have listened that happened. I’d bet big money he bragged to Joey when they were locked up about all kinds of stuff and Joey saw he made friends with some NY guys, Joey checks in with his pops and finds out most of its bullshit but that he was associated but nowhere as big as he made himself out to be Joey or Chuckie came up with idea of him being at the top to catch the heat from LE and getting NY on board.
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Re: Ralph Natale Valuetainment Interview
[Re: DanteMoltisanti]
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06/05/20 11:04 AM
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I finally attempted to watch it, fast forwarded and skipped through most of it but did anyone catch at the end that he claims that Stevie Mazzone wears a wig?!?!? WTF I think he meant he got plugs. Thats not a wig.
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Re: Ralph Natale Valuetainment Interview
[Re: The_Marble_Guy]
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06/05/20 04:19 PM
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Malavita
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Just watched it.
First of all, as a non native english speaker, it was sometimes hard to understand him because of his diction issue. So i didn't get everything he said.
Regarding the content of his itw, i thought they talked too much about his time with Bruno and the union. He kind of says what he wants and no one can really corroborate it so i assume a lot of it is bullshit, starting with that ridiculous private induction ceremony.
I wish they had spent more time on the time when he was the boss in Philly.
It would be great if Valutainment would itw a couple of mob guys at the same time, like Gravano/Leonetti, or Franzese/Pistone. I don't think it would be too much an issue security wise and it would be interesting to have them talk about the people they both knew or the things they did together.
Last edited by Malavita; 06/05/20 04:25 PM.
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