I have what I believe to be a very interesting question.

In you personal opinions who has been or is currently the most vile, degenerate mobster or racketeer to operate on the streets?

We often chat about who the smartest, toughest or wealthiest guys have been. But this one is a bit different twist.

Who had ZERO redeeming qualities?? In other words who was the biggest piece of shit out there??

In my personal opinion there have been many guys who I find to have been decent fella's (If I'm to be perfectly honest here). But I also have my list of guys (animals really), who I despise and think are total degenerates with NO redeeming qualities.

So I now pose that same question to the forum!

RULES? THERE ARE NONE! EXCEPT THAT YOU SHOULD PICK 3 NAMES....NO MORE, NO LESS! AND THEY GOTTA BE "THE WORST"

One more thing. The names can be from ANY PART OF THE COUNTRY (but let's keep it in the U.S. ok?) NO outside the country guys

Robert Dibenardo and Paul Castellano amd Roy Demeo and the millions they made Off child sex trafficking and child porn

Ok Louie. I can respect those 3 picks. Thank you!

Haha Italy is a different ballgame.

1) Sam DiStefano
2) Tony Mirra
3) Fiore (Fifi) Buccieri

I agree. And not to mention the innocent civilians they killed.

Mikey Muscles- Low level Lucchese associate killed by Demeo crew. I don't buy that Roy supported that sick stuff, they purposely tortured Mikey Muscles for molesting a kid showing they were outraged.

Salvatore Granello- A true sick person

Joe Massino- The "last" don flipping on his entire family?Lower then whale s***

Three REAL GOOD choices IMO .... 3 fucking DG screwballs!

Granello was a DG for his proclivity for underage girls. He had no respect for anyone. And as you said for Massino to flip after being the Boss no less, kinda speaks for itself. Mikey Muscles? you got me on that one. I don't think I'm familiar with that name.

I believe his real name was Michael DiCarlo. He was a low level associate/gofer for the Luccheses and apparently he was caught molesting a young boy. They paid the Gemini crew 5 thousand to take him out and it is described in Murder Machine. Dracula Guglielmo shoved a broomstick up his a** while Roy and the rest were using a hammer to the head. They didn't simply just shoot him in the head and then dismember they made sure to torture him first. Dracula was describing how long it took for him to die and how much they messed him up.

Thank you. Who are your choices?? Mad sam is a great choice Believe he was into rap and sexual deviant shit

Roy Demeo without a shadow of a doubt made millions trafficking kids and in child porn..they killed Mikey becuase they were paid too and he got a sick thrill out of torturing people and watching them die

To Joe Massino the Bonnano family was just a business and he was all about the money. Even though I will say EVERYONE turned on him first but in the end for him flipping was the right business decision. By the way he should write a book. It would be the definitive story on cosa nostra in America in the last half of the 20th century into the 21st

#1 - Roy DeMeo for me was a total psychopathic, depraved fuck. He reveled in killing as some do but took it to a whole other level. Chopping up bodies and bleeding em out and then neatly packaging them up? Straight out SERIAL KILLER SHIT! So he's #1 of the three

#2 - Gregory Scarpa Sr. NOT ONLY was he another depraved scumbag who you just couldn't trust, he also reveled in killing. He enjoyed setting up and killing friends, women, etc. NO love or affection in him. Hollow! PLUS he was a complete RAT for over thirty years. So what redeeming qualities did he have? Scarpa was a VERY BAD GUY.... #2 for sure.

#3 - It's a tossup because there are quiet a few who could fall into this category.... but I think I'd have to go with Thomas (Karate) Pitera. He was another psychotic serial killer. Had his own cemetery in S.I. and again; he reveled in killing - dismembering - saving trinkets.... Italian or no Italian. Wiseguy or no wiseguy... he was a piece of shit serial killer! There really is no other way to say it.

**Note: I'm gonna break my own rules here. Because I know I said only 3 guys. But this POS really should be on the list also. Charles Carneglia..... you want more than this guy?? Lol

He looks, acts, and did exactly what serial killers do! Why?? Because he was one. Carneglia is one scary dude. I wouldn't be inviting him to my backyard bbq. Lol

He saved a whole wall of memorabilia of his kills: bracelets, chains, rings, ID's etc. He boiled and disolved people in acid. Not even once, which doesn't make it any better. But THIS was his M.O...... Nah for me? Carneglia deserves #1, 2, AND 3 all by himself. That's one Sick Sick Guy!

Pretty good list. Mad Sam Destefano too. He was never an inducted member of the Chicago Outfit but he was batshit crazy. One story is that his wife pissed I’m off and he abducted some guy on his lunch break at gunpoint brought him back to his house and forced his wife and stranger to have sex. I asked Frank Cullotta On his channel if this was indeed true and he confirmed it.

Tony Mirra

Or the guy he kidnapped from Milwaukee and then had the guys family pee on him

Greg scarpa demeo and the karate dude. They all killed innocents. Women and there made brothers/best friends. Only scarpa rose to capo for a brief period of time and I guess you could add he was a secret informant for 30yrs against his sworn oath. They all did of the books killings so you can't even blame there bosses

But honestly, I DO BLAME THEIR BOSSES! In fact I throw all those bodies at the doorstep of the bosses. When you have animals like that among the troops its good because they are your attack dogs, but you throw any semblance of decency (even for street guys) out the window.

These bums should NEVER have been made "good fellows" , but that is the bad judgement of various hierarchies. What decent knock around guys want to break bread with these DG's?

I strongly believe guys like this should have been kept on leashes as "associates" and only utilized if/when needed. Its part of the downfall IMO of "this thing" that degenerates like these got "position". Here as well as Italy/Sicily.

Bad shit in my book!

I would have to say; In no particular order.

Sam DeStefano
Tony Mirra
Roy DeMeo

Mimi Scialo also had a reputation as a vile and nasty guy.

Carmine Galante had no redeeming features whatsoever.

Yeah Galante was a dangerous guy as well as a diagnosed psychopath supposedly. Many top agents have said the two monsters who made them uneasy were Galante and Neil

NYMafia,I know I already put in my picks,but if I may humbly ask for your indulgence,how about "The Ant" Spilotro,and Tommy Agro ?

Tommy Agro is a guy that I’ve mentioned a lot that’s rarely mentioned by many. He was also scary guy and was notorious for carrying scissors

Lol....sure.

And I don't blame you. Both were a bit sick in the head as well. lol

Agro was a very self-indulgent guy. Full of himself (like a lot of em). Spilotro I don't know much about to be truthful. But he didn't sound like a pillar of society either.


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I like to follow the careers of guys and have had a measure of respect for guys (made or not) who were intelligent, sharp, tough enough to be in that world but had a bit of a conscience and heart. We're good earners on their own, and not shakedown artists and abusive pricks who tried to "eat" off everybody else (whether they be fellow knock around guys as well as legit guys). etc.

The vicious scumbags and bloodthirsty guys who think the more blood they spilt gave them the most "respect" and wanted people to live in fear of them I never had respect for.

To me they are animals. There were plenty of wiseguys and racketeers who made a great living all their lives and never had to stoop to that level.

Lou - always a gentleman.

Thanks FOH,it takes one to know one.

Calabrese, Schweihs the Outfit had many really nasty people.

Tommy Billotti - I remember reading he made a shop/bar owner give him a blow job in front of the guys daughter after he couldn’t make a weekly payment..fucked up on all levels..!

Sam de Setefano...we’ve heard all the stories

Tony Mirra..would happily stab anyone...I’m sure I read he was also banging Goldie Hawn and would recount stories of her always allegedly being strung out on heroin

What about Albert Anastasia, Gaspipe Casso and Vic Amuso?