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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99575
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Quote:
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Oh, poor Anthony...
That was pretty much predictable. He seemed to miss his cue at the beginning of his farewell song.

Whats up with Carrie and Anthony's sudden affection for one another during their performance?

Seem's like another sex scandal in the making amoungst the contestants and judges. What's with the constant favoring of Carrie with Simon?
:rolleyes:

Carrie's crying now and next week when she get's the boot.


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99576
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Yea Luca I was wondering why when Anthony was singing his last song the camera kept showing Carrie.

Seems that Simon wants Carrie to win soI guess she will be the next American Idol

I'm glad that Vonzell was safe. But I think that she will go home next week I would like to see her or Bo win.

BTW I was looking at the AI website today and it said that one of the tops that Carrie was wearing Tuesday was worth 17 mil. cuz of all the diamonds on it. OMG


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99577
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Quote:
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[quote]Originally posted by Big Daddy Don:
[b]
Ant'ney and Carrie for the final two (only because all the kiddies vote and will vote these two) with Carrie winning.

Write it down ...

I have it noted!!!!!

I agree with Vonzell going tonight.

I really think Bo will outlast Ant'ney. Bo and Carrie will be in the Final Two ...

Wanna bet that Bo will outlast Ant'ney? Go ahead, I'm calling you out!!!

[/b][/quote]You didn't get back to me in time regarding the bet. Still...I WIN!!!

Tonight is the first time I have ever seen REAL tears from that robot Carrie. I really feel that Carrie and Anthony - because they are close in age (and tend to be somewhat quiet and shy) - bonded really tight.

Interesting to see the intitial auditions again. Proof they are feeding Carrie really well lately!

Ok, that was mean. But while everyone else in the Final 4 has transformed themselves positively either physically (think Anthony & Bo) or emotionally (think Vonzell), Carrie is starting to look dumpy like someone's mother. :rolleyes:

Good and versatile Final 3. I really, really, really hope they BRING it next week. I think all 3 of these contestants have talent and at most times, stage presence. I want to see some powerful performances next week. Hope they don't disapoint for the final showdown.


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99578
05/12/05 10:01 AM
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Wow, I finally got one of these right.

If I remember correctly, they're going to sing 3 songs each next week. I too hope that they bring it next week.

I was watching the news this morning and on the local Fox station, they were having a singing contest called Chicago Idol - winner gets a plane ticket and passes to the AI finale. Jennifer Hudson from last year's AI was one of the judges.

The singer I saw this morning sung a TREMENDOUS version of Sam Cooke's "A Change is Gonna Come". It was a performance that rivals if not betters ANY of the songs we've seen this year at AI.

Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99579
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You didn't enter DB??? :p

Our radio station here in Albuquerque is doing a week long contest to find 16 winners. Then tomorrow they will paint a grid with 16 squares on the field of Balloon Fiesta park and go up in a hot air balloon and throw Ryan Seacrest ( a dummy, I'm sure ) off the balloon and whoever's square it falls in will win the flight and tickets to the finale.

No, I didn't enter. :p

I don't think you could pay me to attend a Bo/Carrie finale... :p Maybe if only to get on TV holding up a sign shamelessly promoting something fun...

(Like that ugly Constantstink picture I am not allowed to post here as I seem to have tramautized some of our members? :p )


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99580
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You didn't enter DB??? :p
No professionals allowed in the contest, Buffy!

Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99581
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Ah!!! Good one, DB.

I would have liked to see Jen Hudson again. Last year rocked and so did the year before. This year seemed mediocre by comparison.

Who - if anyone - should replace Paula next year?


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99582
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Who - if anyone - should replace Paula next year?
I wouldn't even know. Britney Spears needs something to do - she's actually this generation's Paula Abdul. Like Paula, she's known more for her dancing and off-stage life than her actual singing.

Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99583
05/12/05 11:32 AM
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Survivor night:

So who's getting voted off?

The hot nanny:



or the lawyer with the mannish haircut?


Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99584
05/12/05 11:40 AM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
[quote]Originally posted by La Dolce Vita:
[b]Who - if anyone - should replace Paula next year?
I wouldn't even know. Britney Spears needs something to do - she's actually this generation's Paula Abdul. Like Paula, she's known more for her dancing and off-stage life than her actual singing. [/b][/quote]You are totally joking, right?

But I can actually see where you are coming from. Similarities between the two are addictive personalities - Paula with "pain killers", Britney with Red Bull. Two marriages a piece for both. Overrated wannabe singers with issues (bulimia, self esteem, etc)

The difference is Britney thrives in the tabloids. She doesn't seem apologetic for any of the dopey or bizarre things she does. Paula on the other hand, seemed to just really have a lapse of good or sane judgement.

To where we look at Paula and say "what was she thinking?!", we tend to look at Britney and say "who cares?".

The best guest judges ever were Quenten Tarantino (blunt and refreshingly honest) and Mark "Sugar Ray" McGrath (honest, but a bit too flirty with the ladies). Gene Simmons was also pretty straight up, but who could stand to look at him week after week? LL Cool J? Cool, but a Randy clone.

They need another woman. But a SMART woman...someone with some humility, some common sense and who would be a good balance and voice of reason between the other two guys.

I think it should be me....


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99585
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You are totally joking, right?
You know me better than that, Buffster!

Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99586
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Survivor night:

So who's getting voted off?

You forgot:

Fat Katie:


No-Balls Ian:


and Hot Firefighter Tom


Not sure if Hot Nanny can make it on her own. I have only seen her with her arms and legs wrapped around Greg.

Previews show Ian having a meltdown courtesy of Katie. Did he find her stash of Krispy Kremes and share them with the group????

Ian or Tom need to win this thing. Immunity challenges will be CRITICAL from this point on...


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99587
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Like I posted previously, I think Caryn is leaving tonight - she's been under the radar long enough and the Alliance will figure out that she's the one to beat if she could sneak through to the final. No burned bridges and was able to advance without being in an alliance. Sounds like a Survivor to me.

Next week, it will be the nanny. Katie has Ian's pair in a vice so she'll stick with him at least through the final 3.

Katie is golden into the final two because no matter who wins immunity, the two guys don't want to face each other in the finals. One of the guys will be out.

Either Tom or Ian will win the whole thing. My guess is Ian.

Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99588
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Quote:
Originally posted by Don Sicilia:
Like I posted previously, I think Caryn is leaving tonight - she's been under the radar long enough and the Alliance will figure out that she's the one to beat if she could sneak through to the final. No burned bridges and was able to advance without being in an alliance. Sounds like a Survivor to me.

Next week, it will be the nanny. Katie has Ian's pair in a vice so she'll stick with him at least through the final 3.

Katie is golden into the final two because no matter who wins immunity, the two guys don't want to face each other in the finals. One of the guys will be out.

Either Tom or Ian will win the whole thing. My guess is Ian.
Ok. All noted.

I have to say I agree with this whole shebang. I won't mind seeing Ian win the whole thing.

Dolphin trainer, huh?


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99589
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*Spoiler*
Caryn did indeed get the boot. If Katie makes the final 2 I will be mad. The 15th is the 2 hour finale. So lets see who wins.


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99590
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Tonight is the finale of Project Greenlight


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99591
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Damn, what the hell is up Tana's ass.
How much of a bitch can she become. She treated her team like crap. Every word out of her mouth was negative. Her team will never say good things at the final boardroom.

Her thoughts were, I..I...I. She isn't going to take this job. I wanted her all these weeks, but I guess the truth came out.

I do feel that the two events were not equal. Tana's had so much more to do and had so many more people to have to handle. With people it can go so many ways. You can't control people as they have a mind of there own. Not to mention she had to deal with some people and their egos. Not delegating really hurt her and noone can be a one man/women show. I also feel that you really have to have lots of time to set up this type of event and really have a knowledgeable team. Tana's ego is was to big for what she produced in this event.

Kendra's event was more setting up a room and letting people enjoy the event. She did control and gained support of her team where Tana didn't.


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99592
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Quote:
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*Spoiler*
Caryn did indeed get the boot. If Katie makes the final 2 I will be mad. The 15th is the 2 hour finale. So lets see who wins.
Hell hath no fury...

Caryn behaved as if she knew she was going and wanted to mess up everybody's game.

Ian is being completely played by Katie. He initially read her correctly - he knew she was jumping ship the first chance she got. He still trusts her though. :rolleyes:

Like I said previously, he needs to grow a pair.

Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99593
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Wha' the?

I totally spaced out Survivor even though we were just discussing it here this morning. Buh-bye Granola Civil Rights Lawyer Girl? Ah, okay. DB - our prediction is right on track.

Had friends over to watch what I thought was the Apprentice finale. I totally blew that one too! I thought TONIGHT was the finale!

I was sooo rooting for Tana. At first. I was appalled that Tana so clearly had the more difficult task - with a lot more PR implications (I covered this in a post last week so I wont beat a dead horse.. ).

Well, I was rooting for Tana until about 8:30 ( a half hour into the show ). Wow. That was a totally different side to Tana than I had ever seen!

The kiss of death: The governer wanting the flag. She should have done everything she could to get him one.

Kendra managed her team well. They worked for her and respected her in the end. She took a place that was dismal and looking to be beyond repair and made the event successful.

Tana disapointed Pataki - therefore disapointing the Donald - and said a little TOO much in front of Carolyn.

Based on this final task - I think Kendra should be awarded The Apprentice.

We will have to all regroup next Thursday!!!


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99594
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Quote:
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...The kiss of death: The governer wanting the flag. She should have done everything she could to get him one.
That was only ONE of Tana's numerous disasterous blunders.

Before the flag issue even came up, she had no problem blowing off the fact that the Governor of the State of NY was waiting outside with nothing to do. She brushed off his assistant. She did not have a planned itinerary for the Governor. And after all this...she proudly introduced herself to him as if nothing at all had gone wrong!

She DID delegated the duties which at first seemed like a smart thing...but then didn't want to be bothered by the details of which there were many, and ALL were overlooked...then got pissed when nobody complimented her. At one point Kristen was trying to tell her something and she took a 'yeah, fine, whatever...' attitude and then whined that she needed to be left alone.

She and treated her team disrespectfully and then blamed them individually each time something was questioned (a trait I thought belonged to Kendra until last night).

She didn't proofread the program which contained embarrassing mistakes.

She didn't notice that people were leaving early.

She ASSUMED there was an American Flag included with the rest of the world flags. When there was none for the Gov. to carry after he REQUESTED ONE...she nonchalantly asked someone else if they happened to know where she'd find one. When the one hanging from the ceiling was pointed out to her...instead of sending someone to get it she simply dismissed it as unreachable.

Then...ultimate kiss of death...she stated repeatedly that this was it, she had this apprentice job in the bag.

After all of it...she dismissed her team and sent them off because after all, '...they're the EMPLOYEES, and there should be some distance...'

WOW.

Never has my opinion changed faster than it did last night. Tana's smart...but she proved last night that she does not posess the skill and maturity to handle a scope of work akin to being an apprentice to Mr. Donald Trump.

I think that once Tana has seen this episode as a viewer like the rest of us and had a chance to SEE how many things she screwed up, she will know that it's not quite as 'in the bag' as she thought. She will have to fight for herself at next week's finale.

Quote:
Originally posted by La Dolce Vita:
...Based on this final task - I think Kendra should be awarded The Apprentice....
I agree.

Apple

ps - Only reason I knew last night's show wasn't the GRAND finale was that a recent firee mentioned on a talk show that it would be on May 19th.


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99595
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Quote:
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...Tana's had so much more to do and had so many more people to have to handle. With people it can go so many ways. You can't control people as they have a mind of there own. Not to mention she had to deal with some people and their egos....
I do agree with this...but what happened to Tana with her team (especiall Kristen) was a classic case of 'what goes around comes around'...because weeks earlier she carried off the same 'who care's, no skin off my nose' attitude toward her own project manager on the sportscar task - Kendra.

And you know what? Kendra stepped up to the plate, did what she had to do...and won the task anyway.

Apple


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99596
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Quote:
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Before the flag issue even came up, she had no problem blowing off the fact that the Governor of the State of NY was waiting outside with nothing to do.
C'mon....She DID offer him donuts!!!

Apple - I agree, the whole I'm the boss, I will stay behind and you lowly employees can walk out before me was appalling.

I wonder - did she get a more favorable edit all season or did her true colors just come out as she became overwhelmed and stressed?

It will be interesting to see what the teams will have to say about their "bosses"...


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Quote:
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by AppleOnYa:
[qb] ... or did her true colors just come out as she became overwhelmed and stressed?...
I think her true colors came out because she was completely unqualified to manage an event of that magnitude. The tasks throughout the season are difficult but much smaller in scope. If you make it to the final two...then that's your chance to show what you can do in the big leagues.

Tana proved that she'll do just fine in the small business area. But she's NOT up to becoming Apprentice.

Apple


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You do have to admit that her task was a ruff one. That kind of event, would take weeks to do right. Even with a good staff who had done that kind of thing many times before.

Tana there is no "I" in the word team. She didn't lead her team, she didn't even have a team the way she bitched. If she would have said to them that she needed them to win this thing, they may have done a much better job. Maybe they would have taken the job tasks serious.

Like you said. What goes around, comes around.
No skin off their backs.


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Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99599
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Survivor Spoiler Alert!

Tom wins Survivor! I think this was the only way it could have happened. Great way for Ian to save face and it took some courage to walk away. Ian made so many strategic blunders (just keep quiet, dude) that he didn't deserve to win the million dollars on those mistakes alone.

Katie was skewered at the final tribal council - a lot of it was jealousy but I think most of it was because she was lazy. Frankly, that's the same strategy that made Tina win in Season 2, latching onto Buffy's favorite, Coby, but Tina didn't get as much venom as Katie did last night.

Too many commercials last night though. Uggggh.

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Quote:
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Frankly, that's the same strategy that made Tina win in Season 2, latching onto Buffy's favorite, Coby, but Tina didn't get as much venom as Katie did last night.

Um, DB? You absolutely can't mistake COLBY from Season 2, now the hot Schick Quattro guy, to COBY the flamin' gossip queenie hairdresser from Palau this season!



Tom played the best game ever - all season. I don't know off hand how many immunity challenges he ended up winning, but that is just solid proof the guy was strong physically and smart stragetically. He also had a way of making you like him even though he'd be kicking your ass in the meantime!

Loved his speeches at the final TC. Tom's a good man.

Am I the only one who thought Steph looked better on the island than in the studio reunion??


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Quote:
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Um, DB? You absolutely can't mistake [b]COLBY from Season 2, now the hot Schick Quattro guy, to COBY the flamin' gossip queenie hairdresser from Palau this season!

[/b]
Oops, sorry. I knew something wasn't right.

BTW, I'm the one who told you Colby was the Schick Quattro guy. :p

I think they said Tom won 5 of 7 individual immunities - Ian won the other two. That's pretty dominating.


Quote:
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Am I the only one who thought Steph looked better on the island than in the studio reunion??
Too much make-up probably. She also wasn't showing one of her best features - her abs!

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by La Dolce Vita:
[b]Am I the only one who thought Steph looked better on the island than in the studio reunion??
Too much make-up probably. She also wasn't showing one of her best features - her abs! [/b][/quote]Nah I think it was her hair do.

I still can't believe Katie won 100 grand for doing nothing. I had my shoe ready to throw at the tv if she would've won. I thought it was funny what Greg and Caryn said about her. I am so glad that Tom won. He really deserved to. I thought Ian looked better with his beard and moustache than how he looked at the reunion show.

What do you guys think about Colby adopting a bay girl and naming her Janu(sp)? I hope he will be a good father. Now we have to wait till the fall for the next season.


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99603
05/17/05 10:06 AM
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ESPN.com's Bill Simmons's 5/16 column... A MUST-READ for Buffy, Mig and the other Survivor fans! It is HILARIOUS!

(You can skip the part in the beginning - long story short, he's been on hiatus writing a book while his wife just had a baby and is just getting back to writing on the website again)

Here's the upcoming schedule of postings: A daily dose of "Cowbell" for this week, followed by a return to a regular column schedule next week. My book is like Jason Voorhees (or even Robert Horry) – every time I think it's done, it keeps coming back. So I'm stuck doing the double duty thing again for one final week.


Just to clear up something from my hiatus, I want to apologize to everyone who wasn't able to read last week's chat. ESPN.com decided last year that all chat transcripts would immediately move to Insider … which I had forgotten about when I emerged from my fatherhood hiatus for 90 minutes to answer a few questions. It's as simple as that. I would absolutely recommend the Insider for the price (if you have the extra cash) because it's a good product and you get an ESPN The Magazine subscription with it (which many people don't realize). But some people don't have the extra cash (especially students and broke college grads), so I wanted to apologize to them for inadvertently leaving them out.


Revisiting one point from the chat: I won't be one of those writers who becomes a father and starts writing about the baby all the time. I hate those people and so do you. We named her "Janu" and that's all you really need to know.


Speaking of Janu, I'm devoting today's space to the greatest reality game show of all-time: "Survivor." I hate writing blurbs like this because twice in the last two months (with "The Contender" and "Project Greenlight") a competing TV network grabbed a similar blurb from this space and ran it on their TV ads like I was Earl Dittman or Gene Shalit. If that happens again, I'm declaring war on the show that does it. I'm not a TV critic – Stop blurbing me!!!! Plus, it makes my bosses angry – I'm going to wake up one morning with the Dooze's head in my bed. Again, to anyone working for Mark Burnett Productions, please don't blurb anything from this post or I'm throwing a Molotov cocktail into your office building.


Glad we got that settled. Now, here are three reasons why "Survivor" is the greatest reality game show of all-time:


1. It created the "Voting one person off every week" gimmick. Everyone forgets this now because at least 20,000 shows have ripped it off (and the vast majority of them were terrible). But you could make a decent case that this was one of the six most influential TV gimmicks of the last 25 years, right up there with the single-camera/no laugh track sitcom ("Larry Sanders"); MTV cops ("Miami Vice"); the real-time drama ("24," which actually ripped off the idea from the Nic Cage flick "Snake Eyes," but whatever); and men who could turn into animals to solve crimes ("Manimal" … OK, that one didn't work).


2. Unlike just about every other reality format, it hasn't gotten remotely stale. Only "The Amazing Race," "Real World/Road Rules Challenge" and "7 Lives Exposed" can say that, and I don't think any of those shows are in "Survivor's" class (with the possible exception of the last one). Just look at what happened to "The Bachelor" this season – they tried to mix things up and ended up accidentally turning it into "Elimidate." Poor Chris Harrison had the "Does anyone know if Extreme Makeover or Super Nanny is hiring?" face going from Episode 3 on.


3. Any show is going to have unsolvable flaws, especially a reality game show. But that's the crazy thing about "Survivor" – the flaws work in favor of the show and make it more fun to watch. For instance, its three biggest flaws were in full bloom this season:


A. If you're fat, lazy, unathletic and uncoordinated, this works to your advantage because the others will stupidly keep you around (only because you're not a threat to win any immunities). Last season, Chris won the whole game by playing the fat-lazy-unathletic-uncoordinated card. This season, Katie finished second. I can't emphasize this strongly enough – this drives me crazy. But in a good way. Like, I enjoy complaining about it. Seeing Katie waddle through challenges with a dumb grin on her face, going half-speed like Manny Ramirez during one of his "I don't feel like trying this week" funks, knowing she was a mortal lock for the Final Five since she was smart enough to align with the two strongest competitors … I mean, this drives me bonkers. I can't handle it. No show pushes my buttons like "Survivor" does. I think this is a good thing.


(Note: One change they could make without changing the game too much – the person who finishes last in an immunity challenge has to vote for themselves at Tribal Council. There should be some penalty, don't you think?)


B. The Alpha Dog (aka, best provider, best leader, best immunity challenger and most honorable person) always gets voted off around the Final 6 or Final 7, and only because they make the fatal mistake of trusting the Fat Lazy Unathletic Uncoordinated Group and the Chicks (who invariably end up stabbing the Alpha Dog in the back and switching alliances on him) because they're too good to know any better. This season featured an Alpha Dog (Tom the Fireman) who was smart enough to see the proverbial back stab coming, so he orchestrated a brilliant Alliance Switch to break up this year's annoying pseudo couple (Gregg and Jenn) just as they were gaining control of the tribe. As a bonus, this made it 10 times more likely that Gregg and Jenn will have to leak an amateur sex tape to make money over the next 12 months. So really, everybody wins here.


C. The format of the game depends on one shortsighted moron back-stabbing one or more close friends to make the Final Two, always forgetting that this will come back to haunt them at the final Tribal Council, as they end up losing key votes and getting skewered by a barrage of personal attacks (which always makes for great TV). Without this person, the last three or four shows of the season will unquestionably stink. That's a pretty dangerous contingency for a show, don't you think? But every season, somebody steps up and plays the role of the Shortsighted Moron.


This year's volunteer was Ian, who would have won the contest if not for two crucial mistakes: 1.) choosing Tom over his buddy Katie on the car challenge, which allowed the three chicks to remain on the island together and question his integrity; 2.) telling Katie and Jenn that he would be voting Tom off before the next immunity challenge (like that wasn't getting back to Tom – for God's sake, he was confiding in two chicks!!!!). If neither of those events happened, he would be a million dollars richer right now.


But here's another great thing about "Survivor:" Just when you think the game can't surprise you, it surprises you. After straddling an uncomfortable pole against Tom for six hours in the final immunity challenge, Ian turned down Tom's offer to go to the Final Two, waited another five hours, called Isiah Thomas on his cell phone for advice, then made the following deal with Tom: "I'll jump off right now if you forgive me for trying to stab you in the back, become my friend again and take Katie to the Final Two."


So here was Tom's choice: "Either I continue to straddle this pole, or I win a million dollars and pretend that I'll keep in touch with this dink after the show ends."


Needless to say, Tom took the deal and ended up winning the game. Still, this was fantastic TV. Who's dumber than Ian? Anybody? Who else would give up a million dollars for another man that they've known for five weeks? Didn't he watch the other episodes of "Survivor?" Did any of the winners remotely care that they lost the friendships of a few complete strangers? Isn't the goal of the game to get people to trust you, then stab them in the back? Ian ended up bowing out to keep his integrity, conveniently forgetting that he was a freaking reality game-show contestant! Just a wildly entertaining turn of events. Again, I love being driven crazy by this show, if that makes sense.


Four more notes and then I'm done:


1. I want to see another show where it's just Tom against Rob (the guy who won the first All-Stars contest and proposed to Amber) in the "Survivor All-Stars Who Always Sound A Little Bit Drunk" contest.


2. In last week's chat, I mentioned how Lindsay Lohan had joined the Jennifer Connelly All-Stars, for women who became frighteningly skinny and lost their best asset in the process (their chest). Well, here's another All-Star team for you: the Stephanie LaGrossa All-Stars, for women who look three times better when they haven't showered for a few days, haven't done their hair and aren't wearing any makeup. I actually dated someone like this in the mid-90's. Every time she wore makeup, she looked like a little kid who snuck into Mom's makeup drawer. Bizarre phenomenon. These are also the girls who look tremendous in baseball hats or football jerseys. There's no rhyme or reason to it.


3. Was anyone else bitterly disappointed that they abandoned the whole "Jeff Probst takes the final votes, hacks through the forest for seven hours, fends off two wild boars, puts together a two-seat airplane from scratch, then flies across the world and parachutes out of the plane, somehow landing right as the last 10 minutes of the final episode is starting" gimmick? Come on! That was a guaranteed mid-90s score on the Unintentional Comedy Scale every season! Why deprive us of this? I was hoping he was going to latch onto the back of a nuclear sub or something. No dice.


4. In the reunion special, Coby the Hairdresser's announcement that he adopted a baby and named her "Janu" had to have been one of the five or six funniest TV moments of the past 35 years. I keep imagining Coby's daughter asking her father 15 years from now, "Dad, why am I named Janu?" and Coby answering, "Honey, I named you after the deranged Vegas showgirl who appeared on that reality TV show with me, the one who weighed 80 pounds and looked like Medusa."

Re: Any Reality Show Fans? #99604
05/17/05 01:52 PM
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Mama Mig

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DS,LDV, any other Survivor fan

Do any of you know the time line for The time they leave the island till the time they have the reunion show? Like is it Months?


Dylan Matthew Moran born 10/30/12


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