Originally Posted by Giacomo_Vacari
Nick Ratenni was in Costello camp, even when the order came down not to speak or say hello to Frank, Ratenni refused that order and picked up a few tabs of Costello. The reason Vito never made a move on Ratenni was because he was well respected in New York, RI, Connecticut, Boston, Ohio, New Jersey and a few other places, to where it would really rock the boat. Nick is supposedly the one who asked both Costello and Genovese to talk to one another and try to work it out. They did not, until they were locked up together and compared notes that Tony Bender was pitting them against one another. Once Bender disappeared, Costello was welcomed back into the family as an elder statesman, and never involved with the action, except to give advice and supposedly went to sitdowns for some of the members in the family.

Joe Adonis was like Catena in counting his money, not being greedy, but for busts and dreading deportation. He was more concerned for the cash flow and his end of the money, then take a side and remained on the sidelines. He was smart enough to safe up at least a small fortune, they say millions, but I think the huge money he was making after deportation was from his new activities in Italy. He did hook back up with Luciano, and the FBN knew he had financed a couple of shipments of narcotics to North America while he was in Italy, they just could not prove it, but were successful in seizing some of the shipments. Costello and Pisano were said to be greatly angry at Adonis for staying on the sidelines. In the end, I believe that it was the smart move, otherwise he would have been spending a lot of cash to help Costello, kill or be killed is always part of that life, but the deportation would have happened anyway, so he was much better off staying on the sidelines.

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I agreed with a lot of what you say except that be the time Costello had gotten shot in his hotel lobby (1957), Joe Adonis was already off the scene and had little to do with mob affairs back home in NYC, having been deported in 1956. He was no longer a power or being consulted on sensitive matters. Not that Vito gave a fuck for Doto's opinion anyway.

Adonis was also very smart in that during his entire lifetime in the mob. He made it his business to invest and involve himself in legit business (a car conveyance company, a Brooklyn restaurant, a LI restaurant, real estate, etc.). He also had a very lucrative numbers business in the Fort Greene section of Brooklyn, floating dice games in NY and NJ, etc.
One of the biggest things is that he didn't squander his money like many in his position. By the time he was deported he was a very wealthy man.

He brought his wealth with him which allowed for an extremely comfortable lifestyle once back in Italy. And although he did indeed invest in several legitimate business ventures in his new home, he never again involved himself in any rackets. He didn't need to! He was a very wealthy guy and didn't wanna risk problems with Italian authorities.

One other point we disagree on is Luciano. Although they were old friends (buddies in fact), supposedly Lucky grew disillusioned with Doto because Joe Adonis wouldn't help him out financially once retired back in Italy together. Lucky was looking to "put the touch" on Adonis and Joe wasn't going for it.

True or false, it seems that after "allegedly" initially meeting each other (surreptitiously of course because of LE), Doto largely did his own thing and didn't kiss Lucky's ass the way Luciano would have liked, or involved himself with his old partner. Supposedly that caused a little bad feelings, although when Lucky passed away Doto sent a huge floral wreath for old times with the words "So Long Pal"


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